03-06-2014 SPRING TRAINING THREAD: Suck It, Winter....

by Amy 6. March 2014 14:25

Just putting a quick new thread up so you don't have to scroll as much. Leaving for the airport in 30 minutes! Will try to post--feel free to check my Twitter feed as well--since this trip is with Twitter people, there will probably be a lot of that going on. Looking forward to meeting DocProc and Mrs. Doc and getting some much-needed sunshine. 

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Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 2:41:45 PM #

New thread and new line up

Doc gets to see 2 regulars.

Bernadina 7
Santiago 6
Heisey 8
Frazier 5
Mesoraco 2
Lutz 9
Bourgeois DH
Ramirez 3
A. Diaz 4

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 4:03:22 PM #

ctrent ‏@ctrent 6m

Tony Cingrani walked 3 in his 3 hitless innings, but picked off two of those batters. #Reds 0-0 after 3

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 4:03:58 PM #

ctrent ‏@ctrent 1m

wang takes over in the 4th for #Reds

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 4:07:59 PM #

this is where the game stops being scoreless

River Otter
River Otter
3/6/2014 4:22:54 PM #

I see he's already given up a homer to the Panda.  Hopefully he can stiffen up and not prevent any more runs.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 4:29:34 PM #

I see what you've done there. Panda touches Wang

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 4:38:35 PM #

I'm sad to see it but as soon as the Red's need fewer innings from pitchers Wang will be tossed off....the roster.

They might keep Francis around but Marshall, Holmberg, Simon, and another teams cast off could offer more than Wang. Elbow injuries OK but shoulder not.

This is why I thing Sean Marshall will be a problem all year.

River Otter
River Otter
3/6/2014 4:53:42 PM #

It's too bad the Reds can't hold on to Wang for our amusement

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 5:04:24 PM #

He did k 5 guys so u never know

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 4:42:20 PM #

i want to read this later. No time, heading out for a little league game

Retweeted by Mark Sheldon
Anthony Castrovince ‏@castrovince 12m

Brandon Phillips (@DatDudeBP) has gone selectively "media mute." But he still has plenty to say: http://atmlb.com/NYGeD1  #Reds @MLB

ashlandateam2
ashlandateam2
3/6/2014 4:55:46 PM #

I've got to be honest - after seeing the assassination of Votto last year, I'm convinced that this city's media likes to stir up crap. Bailey's comments when he signed were indicative of that as well.

Phillips doesn't get enough credit for being the scrappy gamer that he is. He plays hurt, he gives 100% on every play, and he sacrifices for the team. Yeah, sometimes he's a dick, but aren't we all? He's absolutely right that he gives more to this franchise than anyone else and barely gets any credit for it.

I really don't know the ins and outs of the clubhouse. Maybe he was a distraction last year, and maybe he wasn't. But I do definitely agree that the way his career has been portrayed has been, largely, unfair. And he's a guy who I'm happy to go to war with.

Mary
Mary
3/6/2014 5:49:38 PM #

I agree with everything you said here, Ash

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/6/2014 8:05:11 PM #

I feel like we should write this down. Has this ever happened in the history of our friendship?!

Mary
Mary
3/6/2014 8:21:23 PM #

It must have--we've been at this for years after all

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 10:47:57 PM #

That's funny

DocProc
DocProc
3/6/2014 6:18:13 PM #

Your intrepid reporter, logging in.

Pretty quiet game in Scottsdale today.  I'm glad it was overcast with mild temps because there were no shaded seats available and my wife took off with my sunglasses in the car.  

Not much to report--the Reds left their bats in Goodyear.  Cingrani gave up three walks but picked off two of those runners.  I swear his move to first looks like a balk, but I'm not complaining.  If I were an opponent, I would complain loudly.  Anyway, the Giants were hitless against him, so that's good.

Wang should be yanked (I see others have made that joke already).  Sandoval crushed one off him.  BTW, the Panda is in much better shape this season.  Not slim and trim, but slimmer and trimmer.

Scottsdale Stadium continues to draw big crowds with loyal Giants fans, which makes it different from most other ST parks.  However, I was really miffed to have to pay 16 bucks for a stinkin' lawn ticket.  I was able to find a decent empty seat near third base, but that's because it was a weekday game.  Personally, I prefer half-empty parks with more carefree attitudes.  When I pay more for a ST lawn ticket than I do for my regular season view level box seats at GABP, that irks me.  End of rant.

Amy, have a good trip and we'll see you soon!

DocProc
DocProc
3/6/2014 6:53:08 PM #

Nice piece about Ludwick.  www.cincinnati.com/.../?sf23582641=1

btalbert25
btalbert25
3/6/2014 7:14:56 PM #

Ash, I think the local media assassinates the players because the people of the city do the same thing.  This city always seems to have a problem with a star athlete.  Even Griffey's first year here where he hit 40 homeruns people pissed and moaned about him.  Dunn was never accepted (though I didn't like him much myself) though my distaste had to do more with what I though seemed like his total indifference to anything that happened on the field.  People always complain about Bruce.  In local bars I've heard people complain about Votto for a couple years now.  I think the contract actually got people to not like him more.  

Brandon isn't liked for a myriad of reasons.  I get people being pissed when he wouldn't run on a ball that he thought was flying out when it hit the wall, I do, but you are absolutely right about the effort that man gives day in and day out. I can even see people not liking him for his outburst on CTrent, personally I don't care about that.  People either really like Trent or think he's an asshole.  He's never liked BP, there's no love lost there, and quite honestly it made Trent relevant outside of Cincinnati for a couple weeks so it probably helped him more than hurt.   I unfortunately think Brandon is given no slack on some of his more negative aspects for an unfortunate reason that shouldn't matter in 2013, but that's an argument we don't want to have here probably.  

This city just always seems to have a problem with you unless you sprint to your position between innings, sprint on the bases (recklessly or not) dive all the time (even into other players) etc.  It's ok to be an asshole if you hustle and look like Pete Rose here.  Otherwise, you need to keep your mouth shut and play perfect all the time and you better not command a high salary to do so.

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/6/2014 8:21:10 PM #

I'm definitely with you, BTA, on the city. St. Louis' pompous arrogance pisses me off. But there has to be a happy medium between arrogance and the straight up loathing the team that lots of Reds fans have.

One thing that really, REALLY bugged me this offseason was the talk of Brandon's contract. He's effectively signed for 4 years, $50 mil. That's less than Jhonny 'Syringe' Peralta, who's been cheating for God knows how long and is a demonstrably worse player than Brandon (in about 50 more career games, Peralta has produced 5 less fWAR than Brandon).

Brandon's contract is below market value - period. And yet I can't count how many times I heard Fay or Trent (who I love, by the way) or Doc say that Phillips' contract was a burden. It was just crazy because it's completely disconnected from reality.

btalbert25
btalbert25
3/6/2014 9:40:10 PM #

I personally love Brandon.  I was all for letting him go if it was going to help the team, but nothing that was floated out there would have.  He's the best 2nd baseman defensively in the game and when healthy he's not a bad offensive player at all.  Even when he has declining skills he'll be better than league average. If he lands a couple more Gold Gloves and All Star appearances.  Stays healthy and hits reasonably well for a few more years, he'll be damn near Hall of Fame caliber.

Mary
Mary
3/6/2014 9:54:09 PM #

yet that article that Champ referenced up stream has this in it:

MLB Network released its list of "Top 10 Second Basemen Right Now" the other day, and Phillips' name was nowhere to be found. He laughed at the slight, just as he tries to laugh off all the craziness of 2013 and the winter that followed.

He does not have a lot of friends among the media folks.

btalbert25
btalbert25
3/6/2014 10:00:12 PM #

That just goes to show how petty and childish the media idiots are.  Bunch of guys who didn't have the talent to go out and play so they are snide and smartassed about guys who actually can.  If you come up with a list of the top 10 2nd baseman right now in the game and you honestly watch baseball and leave Phillips off of it, well your publication isn't even worth of being flushed down the toilet.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 10:57:34 PM #

They had Marco Scutero ahead of him

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 11:02:19 PM #

Jay Bruce was not a top 10 right fielder but Shane victorino was

ashlandateam2
ashlandateam2
3/6/2014 11:08:11 PM #

The MLB Network is a joke. The whole Harold Reynolds VS Brian Kenny thing shows that they're just a baseball version of ESPN - they're not interested in true analysis; they're just interested in sensationalism and headlines. It's a pity, really. It could be an amazing network if done right.

ashlandateam2
ashlandateam2
3/6/2014 11:24:15 PM #

On Bruce and the MLB network:

That list of the best right fielders RIGHT NOW not having him on it is completely insane.

If you look at advanced stats, Bruce was 6th last year in RF WAR.

If you look at traditional stats, Bruce was the only right fielder in all of baseball last year to hit either 30 home runs or drive in 100 runs. And he did both.

Not saying he's in the top 10 is simply indefensible.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/6/2014 11:40:18 PM #

Kenny did put him on the list. He and Bill James had Braun 1st. I didn't know BrAun moved to RF.  Bill James had Bruce 2nd. For some reason they asked Mark DeRosa and he was a moron.

Statmom
Statmom
3/7/2014 7:42:47 AM #




Frank Jobe, best known for Tommy John surgery, passes away at 88.  There are a couple of Reds references within.  

www.latimes.com/.../...be-20140307,0,7968857.story

btalbert25
btalbert25
3/7/2014 9:14:04 AM #

I feel like Jay Bruce is one of the more underated players in all of baseball really.  He is very good offensively, maybe not elite but very good and his D is darn near elite out there.

DocProc
DocProc
3/7/2014 10:13:11 AM #

Looks like I'll get BHam and BP in the starting lineup for the away game today in Peoria.  I'll take it.

Amy, did you make it safely?

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/7/2014 1:40:30 PM #

She's there. She's already posted a couple twitter pics. Damn her.

Mary
Mary
3/7/2014 1:10:32 PM #

ctrent ‏@ctrent 36m

First real questionable statement from #Reds Bryan Price is about In-N-Out: 'I never thought the burgers were that great.'

They are good, but I don't go out of my way to get one (in spite of there being several within 5 miles or less of my house).  I just don't eat that many burgers, and when I do, it is usually because I am stuck somewhere with limited food choices and time (such as in an airport), and those are not the place you find In-N-Out franchises.

Mary
Mary
3/7/2014 1:42:19 PM #

Amy ‏@amyeditress 29m

Everyone else is gone--Votto's still working. pic.twitter.com/4NKCCcXFfV
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@jluckhaupt Oh, I'm sure that'll happen eventually.

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/7/2014 4:57:36 PM #

A quick perusal of the comments in the Phillips post on the Enquirer back up what BTA was saying about Reds fans. I'm pretty sure any negativity that comes from the media is well received by fans who get off on bashing the team. It's neat.

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/7/2014 5:31:55 PM #

Heisey with two homers, Phillips with one, and Hamilton with two steals. Also, Brett Marshall pitched well again. Corcino, however, currently has an ERA of 58.50. I think that's bad.

In the other game, Bruce homered and Leake was healthy in his first start.

Some good news out of Redsland today!

DocProc
DocProc
3/7/2014 7:17:41 PM #

Your intrepid reporter, checking in:

--Saw lots of runs today at Peoria Stadium, which would be a nice park if it weren't crammed into a very busy corner of suburbia.

--Heisey hit a monster shot in the first inning and another long one later.  BP went deep and Kris Negron had a triple that chased Corky Miller, huffing and puffing, around the bases.

--Saw Billy Hamilton wreak havoc on the bases.  Walked, stole second despite a perfect throw by the catcher, stole third despite a perfect throw by the catcher, and scored on a single on a semi-drawn-in infield.  Oh, and while BHam was on the bases, the pitcher walked the batter because he was paying too much attention to Billy.  It's going to be fun this year.

--After moving from a row of drunken loudmouths who thought they were hilarious, I found some empty seats in the shade behind the plate.  Slowly but surely, those seats began to fill--with lovely women who were either carrying an infant or were pregnant.  It slowly dawned on me that it was the section for (Seattle) wives and girlfriends.  Kind of amusing to be surrounded by hotties talking about the pros and cons of breastfeeding.  Smile

That's it for today.

Mary
Mary
3/7/2014 8:01:05 PM #

Your ST sounds terrific so far.  Some day........

genewv
genewv
3/7/2014 8:17:49 PM #

DOC ENJOYING HIMSELF WAY TOO MUCH!

GAMES TOO!

DocProc
DocProc
3/8/2014 10:30:36 AM #

I forgot to mention yesterday that Hamilton made a racing,diving catch in CF yesterday that saved a couple of runs.  Choo wouldn't have had a prayer.  We're going to like BHam in the field, too.

River Otter
River Otter
3/8/2014 11:22:12 AM #

I've only seen the Dodgers game, but his speed in the outfield is amazing.    It's also been encouraging he's been able to get on base.

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/8/2014 11:23:54 AM #

Today, Negron is playing left field.

I get that it's spring training and maybe it's a split squad or something, but that's not a thing that should happen, ever.

DocProc
DocProc
3/8/2014 12:02:52 PM #

He lost one in the sun yesterday and looked bad doing it.

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/8/2014 12:14:12 PM #

It just shows how thin we are in the outfield. This outfield can be good if Ludwick and Heisey stay healthy, Hamilton doesn't flop, and one of Bernadina/Bourgeouis plays like they have in the past. But there's simply no margin for error. Lose a couple guys and we go with Negron, apparently.

DocProc
DocProc
3/8/2014 12:19:18 PM #

The good news is that Heisey and Bernadina are having good springs, so I think we'll be okay.  And I'm guessing that Lutz, not Negron, would be the next guy up in an emergency.

River Otter
River Otter
3/8/2014 1:34:33 PM #

Lutz before Negron would be my guess as well.  I suspect Negron's only chance to make the big leagues is as a utility guy, so I'd guess they're trying to give him some OF opps for that reason..

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/8/2014 12:26:22 PM #

Meanwhile, the Cardinals keep doing Cardinal things in signing Matt Carpenter to what is either a 6 year $52 million deal or a 6 year $70 million deal.

One of the underrated aspects of the Cardinal dynasty of the last decade is they never, EVER overpay players in either dollars or in a trade. Ever. Every contract they sign, from Beltran to Molina to Holliday to Wainwright to now Carpenter is completely defensible. At best, they'll go to the bottom of the market value, but that's it - they don't budge. Carpenter's being paid like he's a 3 WAR player when he was a 7 WAR player last year. And look at their trades - they never lose out on those either. They just do everything right. All the time.

Meanwhile, the Reds have to go to the max or above of market value to get anything done. Votto, Phillips, Bailey, heck even Bruce got about as much as McCuetchen did at the time. And the Latos trade took three prospects and a major leaguer.

I don't know if it's the Reds FO not being good or the Cardinal FO being that much better, but the difference is stark. They consistently improve at modest prices, while the Reds have to overpay in dollars, years, or trades to get better.

Dawginnaples
Dawginnaples
3/8/2014 1:08:08 PM #

Hey y'all. I've been trying to catch up on the ST proceedings and the link to BAR only gets me to the Cinti.com page. Where's the BAR from there? Any guidance would be appreciated.

DocProc
DocProc
3/8/2014 1:15:11 PM #

Same for me, Dawg.  Looks like they changed their format and portal.

Dawginnaples
Dawginnaples
3/8/2014 2:00:58 PM #

Looks like the thread format is non-existent.

Dawginnaples
Dawginnaples
3/8/2014 1:57:18 PM #

I would also like to comment on the Junior fiasco. I hope he gets inducted into the Reds' HOF and nobody shows up. I hope they don't ask him a single question and are just as dry as a popcorn fart in their intro. Two days later they can apologize via twitter.
    That dude has issues!

Mary
Mary
3/8/2014 2:18:28 PM #

Has any one else had posts disappear?  I made a post that was partially a quote from Hal's column and it is no longer here

Mary
Mary
3/8/2014 2:24:50 PM #

I also see the post I made about BHam and Ludwick in the OF is gone.  I certainly did not delete them and no one else removes posts that I am aware of.

DocProc
DocProc
3/8/2014 7:19:08 PM #

Mary: You accidentally posted them on an earlier thread.  I saw them there.

DocProc
DocProc
3/8/2014 7:25:43 PM #

Your intrepid reporter, checking in:

--Game was pretty much a snore for Reds fans--we got shutout.  The only fun on offense was watching Billy swipe second and third after getting walked.  The Cubs knew it was coming and still couldn't stop him.

--Had fun hanging out for a couple of innings with Amy and her friends.  We all sat near the end of the dugout where Eric Davis was holding court with us and other fans around us.  Lots of fun.  BHam was hanging with Davis the entire time, even though the rest of the starters all left after 6.  I think Billy is Eric's project (or maybe the other way around).  BTW, Amy sends her regards (she's having trouble interfacing with RO on her phone).

That's about it for today.  I'm going to buy some steak and grill out tonight--the first meal we've cooked since we've been here.  It's been a great vacation so far.

River Otter
River Otter
3/8/2014 7:31:34 PM #

Appreciate the updates!  At least you had a good time during the game.

Brett Rossi
Brett Rossi United States
3/8/2014 9:41:01 PM #

Have any objections about me submitting this on my twitter?

Dawginnaples
Dawginnaples
3/9/2014 3:21:05 AM #

Hey, what you do with your twitter is your bidnez!

DocProc
DocProc
3/9/2014 7:30:19 PM #

Your intrepid reporter:

--The Reds were shut out until the 8th, when the scrubs scratched out one lone run.  Cueto looked good.  That's about it.

--I was unimpressed with the Angels' park, but it was almost a full house for this Sunday afternoon game.

I'm ready to see the Reds score the runs.

River Otter
River Otter
3/9/2014 7:57:30 PM #

Good to hear that Cueto pitched well.  

genewv
genewv
3/9/2014 8:27:51 PM #

Great to see you folks are still enjoying the sunshine, ST in Arizona.

Of course, we got another snow coming later on this week back here!

I know, I know, cry me a river.

DocProc
DocProc
3/9/2014 10:09:45 PM #

Kind of quiet on the blog the last few days.  Are y'all out there?  Glad the silly Otter is still alive and kickin'.  Smile

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/9/2014 10:16:01 PM #

The Cincinnati Reds Facebook page shared a picture of Amy! Reds October is famous!

bjsReds1
bjsReds1
3/9/2014 10:26:17 PM #

I saw it.  Exciting.

DocProc
DocProc
3/9/2014 10:40:06 PM #

Have a link to it?

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/9/2014 10:49:16 PM #

I'm not sure how to post links from Facebook. I shared it to her wall though.

DocProc
DocProc
3/9/2014 10:54:11 PM #

Thanks--I just checked it out there.

btalbert25
btalbert25
3/9/2014 10:39:56 PM #

I've been lurking when I've had the chance.  Just been really busy!  Looking forward to Opening Day!

Mary
Mary
3/9/2014 11:53:59 PM #

House guest this weekend--be back late tomorrow

SDDennis
SDDennis
3/10/2014 2:20:46 AM #

I've been lurking too. Fun just reading along since I can't make it out to ST this year. Keep up the good work and let the fine people of Goodyear know that I'll be back next year.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/10/2014 9:55:28 AM #

Yeah, things were nuts this weekend. 2 flag games and a baseball game plus I spent part of Sunday working with an 11 year old Russian kid who's never touched a baseball but he is a fantastic athlete. He picked up the game in minutes and could start at SS for most LL teams right now. He looks like Jeter if Jeter were Russian.

On Saturday he lead our flag team to a Championship against a huge bully of a team. It was very satisfying ruining their perfect season.

I could barely get through that game yesterday. it was a snooze fest. Roger Bernadina still looks really good. He could be an asset. I like him a lot more than Robinson last year. If he doesn't make the roster I hope we can stash him somewhere.

With Skip taking the XP role, Ludwick back and Hamilton look pretty good there doesn't seem to be a place for him. Heisey has the 4th spot wrapped up.

bjsReds1
bjsReds1
3/10/2014 10:22:40 AM #

Yesterday's game was boring, but it was nice to get to watch a good bid of it.  I was very impressed with Heisey yesterday.  He's made some nice adjustments at the plate and looks more relaxed up there.

It appears that Heisey has been working with Eric Davis.   Some of his changes - his stance and the way he's exploding out of it - reminded me of a lesser version of Eric back in the day.

I like Bernadina too.  I wish this team would forget carrying a backup SS.  Izturis was a waste of space last year and Santiago will be this year.  Let Frazier or Hannahan, if they have to keep him, play that role.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/10/2014 1:24:22 PM #

i feel that way too about Santiago. I wish they'd have a look at either of those 2 at SS for 5 or 6 innings in a row this spring. They would just need to spell cozart for a game here and there.

That said if they aren't good you can't make too big a sacrifice at the most important position in the field. Frazier, BP and Hamilton are all former SS and should be able to hold it down in an emergency. we will also have to make room on the 40 for Santiago.

I guess in reality I'm conflicted after talking it out.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/10/2014 1:26:51 PM #

Heisey did have a little ED in his stance but the bat speed not quite there. Interesting observation. Not sure anyone would ever teach ED's approach. Had he started with his hands further back and up who knows what he would have accomplished. Heck maybe he would have been worse.

bjsReds1
bjsReds1
3/10/2014 2:36:43 PM #

With Heisey, whatever gets his power back consistently.  This team needs 15-20 bombs from him in that 4th OF spot.  I don't care if he hits .250 as long as he's his old self as a PH and hits for power again.

I'm conflicted with a backup SS too, but if this team can live with Choo in CF for an entire season, they could do far worse than Frazier or Hannahan at SS for 15 games.  Now if Cozart gets hurt and is out awhile, that's a different story, but finding a guy like Santiago off the scrap heap can't be too hard and makes more sense than wasting a useful bench spot on a guy that will be lucky to get in 50 games.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/10/2014 9:59:16 AM #

Still bugs me that the Cards got this guy. We don't a SS anywhere in the org. I guys its nice for these cuban guys, they can just avoid the draft and go where they want. Still not sure why the international rules are what they are.

Derrick Goold ‏@dgoold 18m

Aledmys Diaz (95) and Oscar Taveras at stretch this morning. #cardinals #stlcards http://instagram.com/p/lXTuwRolQz/

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/10/2014 1:27:28 PM #

ctrent ‏@ctrent 3m

headed home for a week with the family, make sure you're following @johnfayman for all your #Reds needs in Goodyear

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/10/2014 1:30:00 PM #

the whole reason the Scott Rolen trade bugged me is traded again.

www.mlbtraderumors.com/.../...re-zach-stewart.html

River Otter
River Otter
3/10/2014 2:28:18 PM #

Lol, I was against the trade at the time for the same reason.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/10/2014 1:30:21 PM #

#Reds lineup vs. Texas: Hamilton 8 Cozart 6 Bruce 9 Ludwick 7 Mesoraco 2 Pena DH Nelson 1b Santiago 2b HRodriguez 5

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/10/2014 2:14:25 PM #

Champ,

The funny thing about that trade is we all should have been upset we traded EE. That guy's turned into one of the premier power hitters in the game, and he's on an affordable contract.

At the time, it was a bad trade for one reason. Now, it was a bad trade for another.

DocProc
DocProc
3/10/2014 2:18:43 PM #

I refuse to lose sleep over trades like the EE deal.  We gave him his shot and he didn't shine.  The fact that he was a late bloomer is something that couldn't be predicted.  Water under the bridge.

bjsReds1
bjsReds1
3/10/2014 2:30:57 PM #

Yep.  More than likely it was the change of scenery that woke him up.  Could have been just the right fit with a new coach or something.  Same type thing with BP coming to the Reds.  Sometimes it's just time to move on.

River Otter
River Otter
3/10/2014 2:31:26 PM #

Yep, he was too big of a defensive liability at 3rd.  He showed some promise with the bat, but like Jose Bautista I think he's exceeded everyone's expectations.  Perhaps something in the water in Toronto?

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/10/2014 2:48:31 PM #

If a guy leaves Cincinnati and becomes a 40 homer guy who strikes out as often as a slap hitting middle infielder, then that's not a 'change if scenery.' That's a 'the Reds suck at developing players.'

We all blame EE for whatever reason, but the fact is, EE came up when being a Red was toxic. The Dunn/Griffey clubhouse stunted the careers of Lopez and Kearns too. EE not succeeding was the Reds' fault.

You guys are right in that it's water under the bridge - we've turned over the whole front office and coaching staff and team now. But it's not EE's fault that the Reds were so dysfunctional then.

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/10/2014 4:59:41 PM #

Where does this guy play in Cincy?  That's my biggest issue with EE, he was such a defensive liability he was either going to play 1st or DH.  Basically he's Adam Dunn without the walks.  I was happy to see both go and I've never once wished either was back.  Chicks might dig the long-ball but I put more value in defense and pitching I guess.

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/10/2014 6:33:52 PM #

It's not just the long ball - he makes contact at a better rate than anyone in our lineup. It's seems unbelievably inconsistent to be upset at strikeouts and then not list after Encarnacion. Bruce struck out - literally - 2 and a half times more than Encarnacion lay year. Imagine THAT in the four hole behind Choo and Votto lasts year.

Replacing Frazier with EE hurts the defense. But it makes the lineup so much better that the net gain would be huge. How many rallies were killed last year by the fact we didnt have a middle of the order bat? Heck, we STILL need that bat, Ludwick or not.

Some stuff was written about EE after he was traded that insinuated he wasn't a great guy in the clubhouse (and that colors the perceptions of a lot of Reds fans). But given that the opposite has been written in Toronto and we all know that what was written about Bailey was made up and stuff written about Votto was nonsense (the Fay/Phillips ongoing war not being mentioned), that should be taken with a massive grain of salt.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/10/2014 6:41:20 PM #

Can't really play Monday morning QB here. He was a liability and had nowhere to go except play 3b. In hindsight we gave up,too soon but Rolen was brought in to teach young players how to be professionals. I'm ok with that.

It would have been interesting to see him in LF

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/10/2014 6:49:21 PM #

I actually agree with what you guys are saying. I just blame the Reds for not being able to develop EE instead of blaming EE himself. And I feel the same way about Phillips and Cleveland; that's Cleveland's fault.

I just wish those years didn't exist. The franchise was in such rough shape that a trade like that was needed.

DocProc
DocProc
3/10/2014 9:00:36 PM #

Intrepid reporter, checking in:

The highlight of today's game was that I sat with Amy and her friends in the row behind Bob Castellini, who was sitting right behind Bryan Price (who was on the field, behind the plate).  Big Bob complimented me not once but twice for my singing on "Take Me Out To The Ballgame."  He asked where we were from and introduced himself.  He also left after Curtis Partch's meltdown.

I've seen the Reds score a total of three runs in three days.  That part is getting old.  But baseball is still great.

Oh, and we saw Jumbo Diaz pumping the ball in at 98 MPH.  If Broxton isn't healthy, I hope the Reds consider Diaz as a replacement.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/10/2014 10:11:38 PM #

Seems everyday one member of the pitching staff melts down. Badly.

DocProc
DocProc
3/10/2014 9:38:32 PM #

I forgot to mention that I saw Billy Hamilton score from first on Jay Bruce's double.  There wasn't even a throw to the plate.  He's really fast.

Statmom
Statmom
3/10/2014 9:59:10 PM #

Doc:  I really appreciate all your reports. I haven't been able to watch or listen as much as I would like, so your perspective is the next best thing for me.

Mary
Mary
3/10/2014 10:02:00 PM #

ditto for me

DocProc
DocProc
3/10/2014 10:14:52 PM #

Thanks!  Glad there's an audience for these musings.

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/11/2014 9:17:10 AM #

Same here Doc, appreciate your recaps and highlights for us.  

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/11/2014 9:31:58 AM #

I don't mind the poor Spring record or low scoring games so much (It would suck if you were there watching it though-sorry Doc).  I think it's a product of a weaker overall Reds minor league system for the most part.

The young position players who rate higher in the system are too low to get much playing time with the Reds squads this year, the strength of the system is most likely in the pitching staff but there's still a few guys in there that are not major league caliber and thus you get the blow-ups we saw yesterday from Partch - who seems to be no better than he was last year.  He had a few innings of decent pitching  but then seemed to serve up major meltdowns half the time he pitched.  

Hebron_Reds_Fan
Hebron_Reds_Fan
3/11/2014 9:33:57 AM #

Absolutely have loved the updates Doc.  Thanks!

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/11/2014 9:57:22 AM #

Hamilton:  So far I think he's doing exactly what we need him to do.  I don't get the impression he's pressing or trying to impress and do too much.  He is scoring runs, getting on base and stealing bases.  Oh and he's caused a few errors by the defense also.  So far I'm happy with what we've seen from Hamilton.  I'm guessing the butterflies will be there on opening day though.

Bernadina - This guy has a boat-load of talent.  I know it's Spring but he's a better player than he looked last year.  He could be a valuable bench addition for this team, just not sure how we get him on the 25 man roster.  Really wish we didn't have Hannahan on contract.  Is his salary of $1M for 2014 and a $2MM buyout for 2015 too much to eat?  I don't think so, plus someone might pick him up and pay that salary for us.  Could he be a late Spring trade just as a salary dump for a player to be named?  (assuming he is ready to play soon.)

Bruce, Heisey, and Schumaker have all looked good at the plate.  Two bench guys and one regular but it's good to have solid bat options off the bench imo.  

It's a bit too early to say much about the starting pitching.  I suppose Cingrani has looked the best followed by Homer, haven't seen much of Leake and of course nothing of Latos.  I'm a bit worried about Cueto but it is early and most of the ill feelings I have were already there.  I'd like to see a few dominate outings from him soon.  I suppose we'll know more when these guys are stretched out to 5IP which should be within the next week I'm guessing.  

Who has stuck out to you so far Doc?

btalbert25
btalbert25
3/11/2014 10:32:51 AM #

Didn't Cueto get knocked around in rehab or in spring a couple years ago and everyone was freaking out?  Cueto takes spring and rehabs for what they are, a tune up.  I won't worry about Cueto til it's May and he's struggling in real baseball.  

DocProc
DocProc
3/11/2014 10:42:26 AM #

BHam has looked good at the plate, on the bases, and in the field.  Couldn't ask much more of him this spring.

Bernadina and Schumaker both look good at the plate.  Like others here, I'd like to see a way for Bernadina to make the team.

Santiago has been unimpressive at the plate and Nelson doesn't look good in the field.

btalbert25
btalbert25
3/11/2014 10:36:00 AM #

Hindsight always 20/20 but I think we dodged a bullet not bringing Arroyo back.

mlb.mlb.com/.../article.jsp

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/11/2014 10:51:35 AM #

Kind of feel the same about Cueto but I was already concerned and wanting to see how he bounced back this Spring so I guess my concern was there before the Spring even started really.  Cueto is much like Votto, starts slow, is toying around with some things and doesn't usually look really good in Spring numbers wise.  (outside of his first full Spring with the Reds when Cueto earned the jump from AA to the Reds).  

Hate to see Bronson hurting.  I'm guessing he gets on track soon and still gets 25-30 starts this year. How effect will he be in those early starts is my question?

DocProc
DocProc
3/11/2014 10:53:37 AM #

Cueto had a good start two days ago--four innings of two-hit ball against a good Angels lineup.  I'm not worried about him.

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/11/2014 11:00:47 AM #

Very good, I had forgotten he made that start Doc.  How has his tweaked delivery looked?

DocProc
DocProc
3/11/2014 11:03:31 AM #

Looked good on Sunday.  He still rotates, but (much) less than last season.  He and Pujols had some banter at first base--apparently Johnny wasn't throwing Albert enough fastballs.  Smile

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/11/2014 11:11:06 AM #

In case someone hasn't seen it yet, here's a good read on Cozart, his change in approach last year and his higher personal goals for 2014:

mlb.mlb.com/.../reds-zack-cozart-focused-in-on-a-complete-season

River Otter
River Otter
3/11/2014 4:58:43 PM #

Hopefully he'll continue his progress from the end of the year.  I'm optimistic we'll see better years from him, Frazier and Snacks.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/11/2014 6:42:29 PM #

I've been waiting for that article to be written for several months. He seems to take all the credit. Good job hitting coaches.

DocProc
DocProc
3/11/2014 1:12:26 PM #

I was looking over my ST record and I've only seen two wins since I've been here--and one came because I went to the away split-squad game.  Amy hasn't seen a win yet.  Today is her last day here--I hope we get a victory for her and her friends.  

BTW, I just checked for tix to the Reds game against the Cubs at their new park on the last Saturday of ST:  Sold out.  Not sure how I'm going to negotiate that one.

Statmom
Statmom
3/11/2014 2:45:23 PM #



STUBHUB???

River Otter
River Otter
3/11/2014 5:02:49 PM #

I demand the Reds pull out a win today for Doc and Amy!

River Otter
River Otter
3/11/2014 9:10:17 PM #

Looks like my demands were not met.  On the plus side the Reds scored 5 runs.

Ashlandateam2
Ashlandateam2
3/11/2014 4:17:21 PM #

Mesoraco better be the real deal.

From a piece on Grantland:

Right after the Rays traded for Ryan Hanigan, the former Reds catcher told a reporter that he planned to watch every start made by every Tampa Bay pitcher in 2013 so that he could gain a better understanding of each pitcher’s repertoire and thought process. When Hanigan got together with Cobb to do some pre–spring training work in January, Cobb was shocked to discover that Hanigan knew so much about him, even though they’d never met before; Cobb says it sometimes seemed like his new battery mate knew more about the pitches being delivered than Cobb did. With that kind of due diligence, and both Hanigan and Jose Molina excelling at pulling borderline pitches closer to the zone for called strikes, Cobb, Odorizzi, Matt Moore, and Chris Archer should be well positioned to succeed at a higher level than most young pitchers with such relatively little big league experience.

grantland.com/.../

genewv
genewv
3/11/2014 6:00:36 PM #

Doc,

Though I have seldom commented on the blog in ST, I have read daily--and much appreciate the info you and Amy have sent our way. I should have stepped up sooner, but am still a bit lazy as college BB season is my addiction from Nov. to March.

Not being negative, but I don't think I will ever regret trading EE--not only because of him, but also for what Scot Rolen brought to this organization, which are are still reaping positive results from.

That said, I continue to wish EE success over in that non-defensive, no" pitcher hitting" league.

JMO.

btalbert25
btalbert25
3/11/2014 7:24:19 PM #

I was never a fan of letting Hanigan walk.  I feel like he was the 2nd best catcher in the league, and I really think last year offensively was because he wasn't healthy the entire year.  2012 he was a great OBP guy and had a lot of really good at bats.

I'll give a BIG however here, though.  IF and it's a big one because I'm not convinced he ever will be, Mesoraco is the gifted bat everyone swears he is, I'm ok with it.  Even if there is a drop off on the defensive side.  Hanigan was really really good, and handled the staff wonderfully, but he wasn't THE reason for their success.  At the end of the day the pitcher is the one throwing the ball.  This staff is one of the best in the bigs and will be with or without Hanigan.

genewv
genewv
3/11/2014 8:07:06 PM #

I loved Hanigan as well--for quite awhile. One of my very favorite players.

I do agree his off year at the plate was most likely the result of that wrist injury he never seemed to get over.

All that said, I understand the move to go with Mesoraco, see if the kid has what it takes? While I doubt he ever becomes a Hanigan behind the plate, this team, as constructed, needs all the offense, power, it can get. If hanigan had stayed another year, we might still not know the answer at the end of this year? Now, we got a chance to find out.

DocProc
DocProc
3/11/2014 10:15:52 PM #

Intrepid reporter, checking in:

--Skip S. got another couple of hits today, including a mammoth homer to right.  Did I mention that we're going to like this guy?
--Bernadina got a triple and showed good speed on the bases and in the outfield.
--Frazier had a couple of hits--nice to see.
--Buster Posey is good.
--I don't think Chapman got a strikeout during his (long) stint on the mound.  They also let him bat for himself.

Champ, we went to Pizzeria Bianco and it was great.  While the pizza was delicious, the flourless chocolate cake was out of this world.  

DocProc out.

genewv
genewv
3/12/2014 10:08:19 AM #

Doc,

I always felt as if I would like Schmauker, because I AWAYS hated to see him come to bat when he was in his "other" uniform.

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/12/2014 10:32:11 AM #

I will miss Hanigan also, really liked the guy and I do think there will be times when we will miss him behind the plate.  With that being said, he sure has taken a beating and I'm not sure how durable Hanigan will be going forward.  I wish him the best, hope he has his best year yet.  

DocProc
DocProc
3/12/2014 10:39:26 AM #

When Amy returns to RO (she's on her flight home right now), let's be sure to ask her about an incident with BP at the practice fields yesterday.  I wasn't there, so I'll let her tell it.

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/12/2014 10:40:57 AM #

Oh man, the suspense is going to kill me.  

DocProc
DocProc
3/12/2014 10:52:40 AM #

Let's just say that Amy and her friends weren't happy with his "less-than-fan-friendly" antics.

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/12/2014 11:15:17 AM #

WOW, BP has always been pretty good with the fans.  Hope we aren't going to have a year full of angry bitter BP.  That will get old quickly.  

Mary
Mary
3/12/2014 11:28:23 AM #

GOODYEAR, Ariz. -- The Reds made several roster moves following Tuesday's game against the Giants.

The club optioned right-handed pitchers Carlos Contreras, Daniel Corcino and Chad Rogers along with left-handed pitcher David Holmberg, outfielders Ryan LaMarre and Donald Lutz to Triple-A Louisville.

Outfielders Juan Duran and Yorman Rodriguez along with left-handed pitcher Ismael Guillon were optioned to Double-A Pensacola. Right-handed pitchers Tim Crabbe, Michael Lorenzen and Robert Stephenson along with catchers Rossmel Perez and Max Ramirez and infielder Reynaldo Navarro were reassigned to Minor League camp. The club also released infielder Henry Rodriguez.

There are 44 players remaining in big league camp.


Wasn't Rodriguez the guy who was dropped from the 40 man and then resigned to a minor league deal of some sort when no one claimed him in the rule 5 draft?

SDDennis
SDDennis
3/12/2014 11:46:53 AM #

I was surprised to see Henry Rodriguez get dropped too. He wasn't having a good spring at the plate from what I could tell just on stats, but I thought he had some great potential and always seemed to hit for average in the minors. That's somewhat from my admittedly spotty memory... Anyway, I'm a little disappointed to see him go, as it doesn't seem like we have a lot of guys who can hit for average.

River Otter
River Otter
3/12/2014 1:15:18 PM #

I'm surprised about H-Rod as well.  He was a nice player to have at AAA.

DocProc
DocProc
3/12/2014 1:20:34 PM #

I think he was on the "sink or swim" plan here in ST once he got cut a few weeks ago.  He wasn't impressive down here, either at the plate or in the field.  I once had high hopes for him, but I think his stint with the Reds is over.

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/12/2014 3:07:55 PM #

That's the thing about H-Rod he had a decent BA with a little pop in the low minors but since he got to Louisville he really has been below average in both categories.  And really you could say the decline started in AA.  

So he hasn't done much in Louisville to make a case that he can hit for average in the majors.  He struggled a LOT when he was called up.  If there's a young 2B coming up I don't think we see him again.  

DocProc
DocProc
3/12/2014 7:03:09 PM #

Intrepid reporter, checking in:

This losing streak is getting old and boring.  So little to talk about regarding today's game.  Heisey and Ludwick each had a couple of hits.  Leake gave up one run in three innings.  Ho hum...that's about it.

Salt River Fields at Talking Stick is state-of-the art ST baseball.  It's not as cozy and quaint as some parks, but I can live with that just fine.  Lots of shaded seating, good food, wide concourses, lawn seating across the outfield, clean and pristine--everything was top-drawer.  And it's only 10 minutes from our condo.  I wish the Reds played here.

My sons are flying in this evening--can't wait to entertain them through Sunday.  In addition to seeing several games, we're going to try to get in a trip to Sedona.  And lots of good eating.

DocProc out.

River Otter
River Otter
3/12/2014 9:40:27 PM #

The Reds are due for some wins while your sons are in town

btalbert25
btalbert25
3/12/2014 7:15:29 PM #

Hope you make it to Sedona Doc.  If you are in Arizona for a month and you are that close it'd be a shame for you to miss it! Some say it's hokey kind of like Gatlinburg, but to me the scenery there is among the best in the world.  I'm not sure I believe in all the hoopla about the vortexes there, but the place does have an energy.  

DocProc
DocProc
3/12/2014 7:44:13 PM #

Your recommendation is one of the reasons we're going!  We'll only be there a few hours--we're taking one of the Pink Jeep tours.  I'll let you know how it goes.

btalbert25
btalbert25
3/12/2014 8:45:28 PM #

If you get a chance go to Airport Road.  It's perfect for pictures.  There's also a vortex on the road going up the hill.

DocProc
DocProc
3/12/2014 7:45:09 PM #

I forgot to mention that Ondrusek looked lost out there today.  I'm over him.  I'd like to see Jumbo make the team instead of Logan.

River Otter
River Otter
3/12/2014 9:39:06 PM #

Too about Ondrusek.  Hopefully he figures it out.  Is he out of options?  Sounds like he could use some time in Louisville.

River Otter
River Otter
3/12/2014 9:52:02 PM #

This isn't going to happen, but Justin Inaz crunches the numbers to show why Votto should bat second:  jinaz-reds.blogspot.com/.../...d-probably-hit.html

DocProc
DocProc
3/12/2014 10:08:39 PM #

That's still my vote, but Bryan hasn't asked me.

Dawginnaples
Dawginnaples
3/13/2014 8:45:36 AM #

Hey, numbers don't lie. That being said, is 1-2 wins worth all the hand wringing? That's 1-2 wins based on someone elses projections. Maybe Bryan and Walt are using different projections? The part I struggle to digest is the pitcher hitting 8th. Can having a guy on base more in the 9th slot actually gain you more runs than you might loose from having the pitcher kill a rally with 2 outs and men on? That seems like a push to me. Especially when you factor in a few less ABs per year for your 9th guy over your 8th guy. Interesting topic, though.  

River Otter
River Otter
3/13/2014 9:28:51 AM #

I also have trouble with batting the pitcher 8th -- intuitively it doesn't seem to make sense, although the numbers suggest otherwise.  However, I think that change would only net a couple of runs over the course of a season, so it's probably about a wash.  

jinaz
jinaz
3/13/2014 12:26:54 PM #

Just chiming in!  I wanted to agree that that whole lineup exercise is very much done in a vacuum.  It doesn't consider:
* Damage done to Votto via either bruised ego, or perception that Reds are unhappy with this production and punishing him by moving from 3 to 2.
* Anything about handedness (though I like to split lefties when it doesn't require otherwise bad lineups to do so).
* Disruption to other players due to making them uncomfortable by putting them in the #3 slot.
* Other things.

As for pitchers hitting 8th, I see the concern.  It's a tradeoff between the possibility of extinguishing a rally early (in early innings only--later you pinch hit) and the possibility of setting up a rally with an extra duck on the pond in front of your best hitters after the 1st inning.  The latter seems to be slightly better.  Also, I think it's an awesome place for a guy with Hamilton's specific profile: no power, middling on-base skills (probably?), great baserunning.
-j

VottoLoco
VottoLoco
3/13/2014 12:48:03 PM #

The man himself!

Do you think Votto (being the Sabermetrician that he is) would have a bruised ego by moving to the #2 spot?  Or would the bruised ego simply come from believing management's decision is based on something other than Sabermetrics?

jinaz
jinaz
3/13/2014 12:59:50 PM #

Heck if I know! Smile

Votto has indicated (on a radio show I heard this offseason) that he wouldn't mind moving to #2 if the team thinks it will do better with him there.  But you never know what someone really thinks.  

My guess is that if any superstar player would be open to it, he'd be the guy.  I think it would help a lot if they came to him with a data-driven argument, as I think he's the sort that would respond to that.  If they'd doing it because they think something about his performance is inadequate, I think he'd probably find that annoying.  I would if I were him.  Jocketty made some comments alluding to that this offseason, and it hacked me off...even though I really would like to bat him 2nd if it were up to me!

But really, I'm just throwing stuff out there.  I have no idea!

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/13/2014 2:23:46 PM #

none of us have any idea but its fun to throw it out there as you say.

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/13/2014 2:03:31 PM #

Hey welcome to RedsOctober Jinaz!

I don't think you've posted previously (I may have missed it).  But wanted to say welcome and that's for the input.  

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/12/2014 11:35:51 PM #

Help me get my interest back...help

River Otter
River Otter
3/13/2014 9:31:35 AM #

I'm sure you'll get fired up once the regular season starts and the games count.  In the meantime, hopefully Amy's BP story from spring training will help.  

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/13/2014 12:19:48 PM #

I think it will if she get to it.

C'mon Amy

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/13/2014 12:21:46 PM #

I saw gem and said out loud WTF?

Last October, Hannahan underwent surgery to repair a torn labrum. He still isn't ready to play defense, but he is healthy enough to begin seeing live pitching.

"As we get into these American League games, I think you can anticipate him being used more as a designated hitter until his shoulder is strong enough to start playing defense, too," manager Bryan Price said.

With Shumaker on bench why would Hannahan ever DH....EVER. He is beyond awful at the plate. Let Mike Leake DH before that guy.

Dawginnaples
Dawginnaples
3/13/2014 12:26:27 PM #

Maybe he was just talking about ST games so he could start getting his ABs and be ready to hit.200 when he's able to play. I wish there was a big flush handle for this guy. He'll probably end up getting Bernadina's roster spot. Then the Rats or Beermakers will end up using Roger to PH against us

ashlandateam2
ashlandateam2
3/13/2014 1:57:29 PM #

Hannahan not being able to field is fairly irritating, given that he's useless at the plate and good in the field. In my perfect world,

- Schumaker never sees the field, but only pinch-hits;
- Hannahan never sees the plate, but only pinch-fields;
- Santiago and Bernadina make the roster.

I don't know if that's all possible. If you have everyone healthy and only 5 bench spots, then Heisey/Pena/Schumaker/Hannahan only leave room for one of Santiago and Bernadina. But I agree with Dawg - I don't see why Hannahan is on this roster.On a team with great defenders all over the place, I can't see him having much of a function.

RedFaced
RedFaced
3/13/2014 2:05:39 PM #

Hannahan has been a major disappointment - and that was when he was healthy.  Reds need to eat that contract and move forward.

VottoLoco
VottoLoco
3/13/2014 2:32:02 PM #

The thing with Hannahan is that he was used as a substitute last year much more (as a percentage of ABs) than he had been in previous years.  His career splits show that he has hit much much worse as a substitute than as a starter, so it's no surprise that he was not successful last year.  If Price can recognize this and use him more effectively to spell Frazier/Votto/Cozart, then he may be more valuable.

Honestly, I'd love to see them play him at SS for all of the ST games he can make.  This might make Santiago superfluous, and they could make Bernadina the 5th OF.  Cutting Santiago will also be a lot easier for the brass to stomach than eating Hannahan's salary (assuming they can't trade him).

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/13/2014 2:26:41 PM #

we need to throw up a starter. I'd do it but I have to get some shit done before getting my kid to a 5:30 baseball game and daughter to 6:30 gymnastics. Thanks out of town wife.

Anyone, just throw a line up and a special spell to break the streak. Post a pick of a Mark Grace style slump buster.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/13/2014 2:30:37 PM #

if you are easily offended by sexist remarks made by a dopey ball player then stop reading now. Otherwise the actual quote straight from Grace is below

On the definition of a "slumpbuster", after being pressed by host Jim Rome in a now-infamous 2003 interview on the television show "Rome is Burning" to clarify the baseball slang term (this is the "official" word-for-word transcript from the interview)...
"A slumpbuster is if a team's in a slump, or if you personally are in a slump, you gotta find the fattest, gnarliest, grossest chick and you just gotta lay the wood to her. And when you do that, you're just gonna have instant success. And it could also be called jumping on a grenade for the team."

ashlandateam2
ashlandateam2
3/13/2014 2:43:26 PM #

This is one of my favorite baseball quotes ever.

My vote for the slumpbuster is Amy's BP story. That should be a starter in and of itself. I don't know what it is, but it has to be more interesting than talking about middle relievers and bench players who may or may not make the team.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/13/2014 2:44:58 PM #

she has to be busy because we haven't heard a peep. I'll find out where she is.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/13/2014 2:43:54 PM #

#Reds lineup at Dodgers: Hamilton 8 Cozart 6 Frazier 3 Bruce 9 Heisey 7 Pena 2 Schumaker 4 Santiago 5 Simon 1

Amy
Amy
3/13/2014 2:50:08 PM #

Working on the new thread now. Sorry--slept way late then pretty much went straight into school mode.

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/13/2014 2:53:48 PM #

what a trooper

Champ Summers
Champ Summers
3/13/2014 2:57:43 PM #

when you got back did winter tell you to suck it? I can just feel it. The automatic doors slide open and you exit the airport into that crap weather. Its like a backhand to the face and a kick in the gut.

VottoLoco
VottoLoco
3/13/2014 3:06:08 PM #

NO EXCUSES! (welcome back) Smile

ashlandateam2
ashlandateam2
3/13/2014 3:00:24 PM #

As we wait for Amy, here's a great national piece on Price:

espn.go.com/.../price-will-likely-be-a-great-leader

Amy
Amy
3/13/2014 3:07:06 PM #

New thread is up Smile

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