03-08-2012: Things I Love About Spring Training

By DocProc at March 08, 2012 18:12
Filed Under: Spring Training

About the time this thread starter is posted, I’ll be on my way to Phoenix to catch a couple of days of Spring Training. We’ll see a split-squad game in Scottsdale on Friday and a game against the A’s in Phoenix on Saturday. “Pumped” does not begin to describe how I’m feeling right now.


This will be the 10th straight year than my son and I have attended Spring Training together. We went the first time for his high school graduation present and we attended seven seasons in Sarasota. This will be our third trip to Arizona. As I’ve chronicled here before, we miss Florida and didn’t enjoy our first trip to AZ—but it was much better last year. Now that we’re learning places to go, stay, and eat, it’s becoming more like Sarasota to us. The forecast for Friday and Saturday is sunny with a high of 77 both days and zero chance of rain. Hard to beat that.

 

For those of you who haven’t been to Spring Training, I can’t recommend it enough. I’ll start the conversation by noting a few of the things I love about Spring Training, then I’ll ask others who have attended to chime in. In no particular order, here are some things that make Spring Training special:


--The quiet at the ballparks. There are no big scoreboards, music only plays between innings (if that), and there are only a few thousand people in attendance—so it’s amazingly (and surprisingly) quiet during the game. If you called out to a player, the pitcher, or an ump while the game is on, they would hear you. Loudly and clearly. But of course, you wouldn’t do that—it would break the charm. I often find myself talking in a low voice—sometimes a near whisper—with my son during the game. It’s great.

--The friendly fans. Most of the people who are there are serious baseball fans. It’s easy to strike up a conversation if you want to, particularly if you’re in another team’s park. Their fans like to learn about the Reds, and we like to hear about other teams, too. A typical question is, “What do you know about this kid at the plate—is he any good?”


--Access to the players. Everyone talks about this, and it’s true. We particularly like to go the practice fields and chat with the players as they’re coming and going from various fields. We don’t ask for autographs, and I think they appreciate that (although they’re willing to sign). They’ll also toss you a spare baseball on occasion—well, the major leaguers will. Minor leaguers have been told not to.


--Warmth and sunshine when it’s cold back home. Okay, this doesn’t always work out—but when it does, it’s great. Nothing better than sitting in shorts in the sunshine, knowing it’s 30 degrees back home. Yes, I now bring sunscreen (learned the hard way, of course).


Okay, that should get things started. Other ST veterans, please add your two cents!


Comments (334) -

3/8/2012 6:16:49 PM #

Mary

I think I am a bit envious.  I was thinking of going over for a day or two, but I have a friend from Seattle coming for ten days starting next Tuesday, so I decided to wait 'til next year (I know that it's WAY too early in the season to use that phrase, but it fits)

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3/8/2012 6:31:37 PM #

DocProc

Thanks for posting the starter, Mary!

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3/8/2012 6:32:22 PM #

DocProc

Ooh, love to see my posts in red!  Next one should come to you from AZ.

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3/8/2012 8:23:55 PM #

genewv

Doc,

Really nice insights as to what makes ST special. I have never been, probably never will, but you make it seem very up close and personal, which I am sure it is.

Sounds like you and your son have made it even more. Good for the both of you. Baseball, America's Game!

For me, that is what the State BB Tourneys are for my family. My wife and daughter have been going for 20-25 years or so, and we make it a family vacation. It also falls near my daughter's birthday, March 5, so it becomes a sort of standard birthday present for her. She just turned 38, but she is still our little girl. Some know how that is, some will learn. Only child, by the way. They both love BB, and we meet a host of old friends that we never see anymore expect down at the tourney. Great 3-4 days.

The3 WV State BB Tourney is a "happening" in WV.

Anyway, looking forward to other posts.

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3/8/2012 8:32:45 PM #

genewv

Soccer,

Report in so we know you are alive!

I listened to the game as I helped my sister in law paint a bedroom.

I used to tell my kids, someone has got to win this thing, might as well be us!

Here is hoping you guys get it all.

UCONN and Georgetown gone, I feel good!

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3/8/2012 10:58:11 PM #

Soccerdad13

I'm here. I watched the game with one eye. It's been a tough day. A friend lost his 19 year old son in an auto accident last night. Hug your kids and let them know how important it is to wear your seatbelt.
The Big East is a grind. Every possession is like a trip to the proctologist.
The Bearcats may not be the most talented team, but they have a lot of grit. I sure as hell wouldn't want to play them in the tournament. Off to Kent OH tomorrow morning to help SocDaughter deal with the ass hat that backed into her car and smashed the crap out of the front end. University employee driving a university car,of course. More red tape and bureaucratic state bullshit to deal with. It shouldn't be that damned difficult. She had exams all week and sure as hell didn't need the university being a pain in the butt.

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3/8/2012 10:59:45 PM #

Soccerdad13

All that being said, I'm not complaining. Every day you and your family wake up is a damned good day.

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3/9/2012 11:15:47 PM #

Redwakeup

Amen, Each day you wake up is a good day. Am saying a prayer for your friend and his family.

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3/8/2012 9:09:31 PM #

Champ Summers

Before I address the starter I wanted to say i agree with RF on the Chapman conversation. Dusty just says stuff without regard for the plan. There is no way a little groin strain from a lefty in the pen is going to derail Chapman's plan. They have Zavada in camp. They have Francis in camp who could do a Dontrelle and work in relief until needed. I can just hear the conversation with Walt. Dusty, you have to stop saying stuff like that. You know what the plan is for Chapman. But Walt, he give us the best chance to win. now. Yeah dusty, to hell with his future and the 30 mil we dropped on him. Lets have another wasted season.

He makes me think about my boss.

The head agent in our organization is 69 years old and stubborn as heck. He reminds me of dusty in a lot of ways. Works from his gut and ignores actual facts and figures. His instincts have made him a millionaire over the long haul though. Hard to argue with his results.

The problem is his instincts are not as sharp as they used to be and his fly by the seat attitude has gotten us in trouble. He says whats on his mind with out calculating the repercussions. He works for the here and now since he is about to retire and to hell with the future of the group soon to be run by his son and I. Drives me batsh1t crazy at times.

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3/8/2012 9:23:43 PM #

genewv

Champ,

Sounds like you got a pretty good handle on both Dusty and your boss.

Maybe they are the same person?

Change is hard on we old folks, sometimes very difficult, to get us out of the left hand  hand lane driving at the right hand lane speed. Often, not always, it is just better for us to pull over in the right hand lane let the newer, faster folks pass on by. Some old heads never pull over. That is Dusty, IMO.

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3/8/2012 10:11:30 PM #

SDDennis

You know, just to play Dusty's advocate, because I don't really buy into this, why *not* keep Chapman in the bullpen this year if he's truly the piece you need there to win this year? It sure sounds like they mortgaged the future for this season already anyway.

Besides, even if the plan isn't to play Chapman, Jocketty is all about misinformation, so maybe Dusty isn't getting the full truth from him either. Seriously.

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3/8/2012 10:21:29 PM #

Dawginnaples

Just anoyher man's opinion but, in my mind, everything is on the table for this year based on the decisions already rendered. The one huge exception has got to be the future of Aroldis Chapman. Do you want a flash in the pan lefty set-up guy or do you wish to attempt to guide him toward 3-4 years of being a top of the rotation starter? At this stage, it is my firm belief you cannot have both. He needs professional experience, innings, and an opportunity to get BACK to 150-175 innings. That ain't going to happen pitching one inning at at a time out of the pen. Also, the reasoning that he would be "more valuable" for the immediate future in the pen is a fallousy. At some point in the 2012 season, one of the front five starters will break down or need rest or develop a blister or God only knows what. At that point Chapman get his shot. If he has value, he may concievably show it at that point. It is entirely possible, almost likely, that he will finish the season in the rotation if he begins the season preparing to be a starter. But only if

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3/8/2012 10:55:08 PM #

Champ Summers

To add to dawgs point why not just put Corcino on the 40 and put him in the pen. Because he needs to develop just like chapman. In 2008 the rays had this bad ass prospect who could get anyone out in relief. He was ready for that role but the rays chose to send him to the minors and work on a 3 rd pitch and stretch him out.

That was david price and he appeared late in the season to be a super effective relief specialist during the world series run. The next spring it was still debated if he would start with the big league club. They were patient and they continue that strategy to remain successful in the AL east this season and for season to come.

This team is all in for the next 2 years but really they are set up for a 3 or 4 year run. We may lose votto but we can add a solid 1st baseman and remain in the hunt for more than a few years.

We need to find out if this guy can live up to his potential instead of stunting his growth.

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3/9/2012 12:04:10 AM #

SDDennis

I wonder if it's time to go back into the archives (if we have them) and review what that Cuban Baseball writer's take on Chapman was back when he was signed. Might be kinda interesting.

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3/9/2012 12:08:47 AM #

SDDennis

(though a lunar colony would be interesting too Wink

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3/9/2012 12:42:36 AM #

Mary

I think they are still available on the Enquirer boards--
and in checking, they are.

Part 1   news.cincinnati.com/.../section

Part 2  news.cincinnati.com/.../section

Part 3   news.cincinnati.com/.../section

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3/9/2012 12:58:46 AM #

SDDennis

Cool. Thanks Mary!

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3/9/2012 1:00:26 AM #

Mary

How about a brief summary for us if you reread those articles?  

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3/9/2012 1:54:31 AM #

SDDennis

Just finished. First off, Mr. R did a great job on that series. It was really in depth. The first two parts are basically background on the Cuban baseball scene. Bjarkman seemed, as you all might recall, to have a bit a of chip on his shoulder about how little attention Cuban baseball gets in the world, but with every other breath his words should have told him why. It's basically a AA league with about 13,000 players, and a few stars that have major league talent.

That aside, most of what he said about Chapman's strengths and weaknesses were pretty dead on. He hadn't seen much of the slider and curve, but said that Aroldis didn't need much more than his high-90s/low-100s fastball to get most Cuban Leaguers out. Also, he said that he hadn't progressed much from age 19 to age 22. However, you might all recall that we found out Chapman hadn't even started pitching until age 15, so he's likely still learning, and now he's learning from top-level coaches and getting experience vs. the best baseball players in the world.

Bjarkman (who's name always reminds me of Bjork, which gives me the disturbing image of a baseball writer in a swan dress... and I wonder why I have trouble sleeping), mentioned his lack of control and tendency for it to go to his head and spiral into a train wreck on occasion. That seems to hold true. Bjarkman mentions Yunieski Maya quite a bit as being someone he thought should have been snapped up as more ready for the Majors. Maya is with the Nationals now, and a quick look at his stats showed he only pitched about 26 innings last year in the majors, and had a 5.88 ERA to show for it.

Really a lot of what he said in the third part of the series is worth a re-read, just as points of interest. However, I've probably given you the meat of it here. Stuff-wise, Chapman is clearly promising. I think we'd all agree that he's still a work in progress though. Most of this just serves to prove that he really should be making consistent starts at AAA in 2012 to learn how to be a smart pitcher. Hopefully, talking to Ryan Madson about his changeup, and whatever other encounters he has in big-league Spring Training, gets Aroldis fired up to make the leap forward in development this year.

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3/9/2012 3:32:22 PM #

Mary

in the non-broadcast game:

6m Jamie Ramsey Jamie Ramsey ‏ @Jamieblog


Chapman sits the side down in order. 2 strikeouts.

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3/9/2012 8:14:17 AM #

Dawginnaples

- Great stuff Mary and Dennis. Nice to see the retrospective look at Aroldis and man, it was pretty accurate. Agree with conclusions of the artical and the conversation here.
- Back to Doc's topic of spring training and what it's meant to me in the past:
    I can't tell y'all how much I miss the ST schedule in Sarasota. 3-4 games a year up there always provided the perfect primer for the regular season. It also was the opportunity to get a human connection to the team. Hearing Keppinger's voice, seeing Votto's facial expressions as he interacted with the crowd, yelling "nice play" to a 3rd baseman (what was his name? traded to Oakland) who was only 30 or 40 feet away and actually getting a "thankyou" are all examples of things that rarely happen in the regular season. Most fans are more concerned about individual performance and less so about the game's outcome. This makes things more casual and enjoyable on a different level. Both team's fans go home happy. It's just totally different.

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3/9/2012 9:06:38 AM #

Champ Summers

OK, i finally have a chance to comment on the starter itself. Doc Is in AZ and will be rolling out of bed soon. He's getting ready to begin a pretty perfect day.

You wake up with no sense of urgency. A stroll down to the continental breakfast with your computer or iPad. Check to see if Sheldon or Fay have posted line ups. Then stroll over to the complex for the morning workout.

That is just a great way to start your day.

Doc has some great point about the quiet stadium and player access. I've also had the same experience with fans. You meet fans of the opposition or fans of baseball who are neutral but want to talk baseball. I love all those things. The weather part is a trade off for me.

Why do I like AZ vs FL? as a resident of FL I never really experienced spring training. Sometimes I would catch a morning workout but usually I would drive to Sarasota for a game and catch a game when the team traveled to Orlando to play Houston or Atl. That was typically a B squad. In AZ you go to ST. No distractions. You are there for baseball and only baseball. Sure it sucks to fly 4 hours to do this but I'm not sure I would have experienced it this way had they stayed close to home.

I will tell you...I love the morning workouts as much as the games themselves. You get a sense of what its like to play baseball for a living. You can see a dynamic between players that you don't get by going to games. You can see the little clicks. You can see the dedicated hard workers vs the Volquez types. In BP you can see the truly gifted ball players. You can see Eric Davis saying stuff you will repeat for years to come.

The atmosphere is so relaxed. The games mean nothing to most of these guys so you can tell most are getting their work in and just enjoying playing baseball. Maybe for some they can enjoy playing baseball. It can feel like a pick up game in the back yard or at a local school. Few worries and low expectations for players and fans. You can sense that in the crowd.

I love drinking beer. I have two wonderful but high maintenance kids around the house and I don't drink period. I don't relax period. I am always on the go. In AZ there are no kids, nagging customers, no wife or in-laws. Just baseball and quality time spent with the guys in my life who share the same passion(Amy is officially of of the guys now). For 4 days in March I get to forget about my wonderful family and just soak in my life's passion uninterrupted.

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3/9/2012 10:39:58 AM #

DocProc

You captured it exceptionally well, Champ!  I just had my continental breakfast (I love make-your-own waffles), and we're getting ready to head over to batting practice.  There is nothing else on our agenda today except watching lots of baseball, eating some good food, and watching ESPN at night.  We might stop at some batting cages and/or one of the casinos during the weekend.  Not a care in the world.

Just saw the lineups today.  I'm surprised that BP, Cczart, and Ludwick are make the "trip" to Scottsdale, but that's great for us.  Sorry that Soto and Gregorius are being left at Goodyear, but maybe we'll see 'em tomorrow in Phoenix.

Livin' the dream.

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3/9/2012 11:14:41 AM #

Soccerdad13

Amy really is one of the guys,in the best way possible.

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3/9/2012 11:36:10 AM #

Champ Summers

She put up with our crap most of the trip last year. She didn't walk to the bar with us on St Paddys day but otherwise she was right there. We couldn't offend her and I can be pretty offensive/politically incorrect. She'll be there part of the time this year to. Hopefully she can handle my tea party Druncle.

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3/9/2012 2:09:32 PM #

Amy

Wait wait wait...TEA PARTY? Druncle I can handle, but you may have to keep me in margaritas or Maker's to handle the tea party aspect.

And this year the bar's right across the parking lot, so I'm there for St. Patrick's Day. Green Reds hat, green Reds shirt, the whole deal.

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3/9/2012 3:10:43 PM #

Amy

Thanks, both of you Smile

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3/9/2012 11:39:43 AM #

btalbert25

I have never been to spring training but have always wanted to attend.  I think I'd love it.  Give me no work, beautiful sunny days, baseball, and Arizona and I'm pretty sure I can have a great few days.  

I know I've said it before but if anyone is out there and will be doing some sight seeing, I HIGHLY recommend the 2 hour drive north to Sedona.  I've been there about 3 times and the place is just amazing.  I'd recommend the Grand Canyon as well, it's awesome, but it'd be about 4 or 5 hours away.

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3/9/2012 11:52:29 AM #

Champ Summers

We did Sedona 2 years ago and its very cool. We may go back since my cousin is coming out for the first time. Friday is a night game so that would be a great day to head out. The canyon will have to wait. its 8 hours round trip so not conducive for a day trip when you have to get back for a ball game.

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3/9/2012 3:03:12 PM #

Amy

Yeah, it's a haul. Mr. Amy and I did that drive, but it was a non-baseball day. Amazing, though--I'd never seen it before. Very much worth the drive.

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3/9/2012 11:40:03 AM #

Champ Summers

Any updates on Wilson Valdez? I heard Cozart was dealing with a slight arm issue but he's in the line up today. Still lots o Janish and Willie Harris. No Valdez sightings in a few days.

Doc...since Fay is worthless let us know if you see him out there.

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3/9/2012 1:59:03 PM #

Champ Summers

John Fay ‏ @johnfayman

RT @EBELL90 We know about Masset, Bray, Cozart, Madson's aches. Whats up with Valdez? Not been in the lineup recently//Playing today

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3/9/2012 2:01:05 PM #

Champ Summers

May have seen good ole Hugh over on the MLB.com site commenting on the Drew stubbs article

cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/index.jsp?c_id=cin

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3/9/2012 2:07:19 PM #

Amy

I love being officially one of the guys. The non-hurried atmosphere of everything is so great--part of that is the time difference, I think? Plenty of time to feel like you've slept in, then have breakfast, and STILL get to morning workouts.

Morning workouts, yep, they might be my favorite thing about ST. I didn't go to the workout fields in FL, so I don't know how it was there, but the arrangement of the fields in Goodyear is really convenient--you can pretty much monitor what's going on on four fields at once.

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3/9/2012 2:10:00 PM #

Champ Summers

Derrick Goold ‏ @dgoold

Mozeliak confirms that #Cardinals are checking Carpenter for "nerve-related" issue. Will miss Monday's start. Awaiting word from specialists

Will Carps son weigh in?

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3/10/2012 10:25:03 AM #

soccerdad13

Daddy what's wrong with your nerves.

You get on them

it's the best I can do with a a beer induced slow brain on a horrible computer in the business center of the hampton Inn in Stow Ohio. I left my laptop on the kitchen counter at home.

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3/9/2012 2:14:08 PM #

Champ Summers

Derrick Goold ‏ @dgoold

Wainwright done after 30 pitches, 16 strikes, two strikeouts, one walk, no hits and two innings. Touched 93. Sat at 9

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3/9/2012 3:11:53 PM #

genewv

Soccer,

So sorry to hear of your friend's loss of their son. Beyond sad. In all the years i taught, we probably had 12-15 kids who died, got killed, that were in school at the time. No doubt,the most difficult issues I ever dealt with, and past experiences seemed to make almost no difference in the pain, issues, difficulty with dealing with the kids left behind, brothers, sisters, parents, etc. I was one of those that the kids always came too for counseling, though I was not a counselor myself. Will send up a prayer for your neighbors.

As far as the government/school bureaucracy, red tape, BS, good luck. No amount of prayer will help you there. Hope the daughter does OK in her exams.

Here is hoping Cincy does it again today.

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3/9/2012 3:32:51 PM #

Mary

from RJ

From the non-broadcast game:

6m Jamie Ramsey Jamie Ramsey ‏ @Jamieblog

  

Chapman sits the side down in order. 2 strikeouts.

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3/9/2012 3:38:14 PM #

AshlandATeam

So... Fangraphs ranked the teams 1-30 by position (by something called ZIPS projection system), and I thought their findings were interesting food for thought about the Reds:

Catcher - 11th
First - 1st
Second - 6th
Third - 20th
Shortstop - 20th
Left Field - 12th
Center Field - 23rd
Right Field - 4th
Starting Pitching - 23rd

So, summing up:

- Votto is the best first baseman in baseball for 2012;
- They love the corners, almost irrationally (Jay Bruce 4th!? Heisey Ludwick 12th? Really?)
- They're not big on Stubbs or the rotation (which is a reflection of not believing in Arroyo or Bailey, actually)

All in all, I'm not sure I can argue with much. I still think we should sign Oswalt because I don't believe in Bailey or Arroyo. But whatever.

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3/9/2012 3:39:59 PM #

AshlandATeam

Also of note - St. Louis was only ranked #4 in catching, which just shows how laughable the Molina contract was.

For $75 mil, your catcher better be Johnny Bench, Ivan Rodriguez, Yogi Berra or Mike Piazza.

For $75 mil, you shouldn't be the fourth best in your league at a time.

And actually, the 5-7 guys were Montero, Napoli and Posey. I'd rather take those guys than Molina.

But even if he's 4th, my God - $75 mil!? Ha!!!

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3/9/2012 4:26:22 PM #

Dawginnaples

Hope the announcers for the KC game are better than those for the San Fran game. They (San Fran guys) were just irritating. I don't know how those fans can listen to thoat duo.

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3/9/2012 4:33:53 PM #

Mary

It's Jeff Brankley and Jim Kelch, so nothing unexpected on this broadcast

Mary | Reply

3/9/2012 4:34:09 PM #

Mary

that's "BranTley"

Mary | Reply

3/9/2012 5:03:54 PM #

rpa

I like "Jeff Brankley"

Has a ring to it.

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3/9/2012 6:33:32 PM #

DocProc

Checking in from Scottdale, where it's 75, sunny, and gorgeous.  Great day for baseball.

In the split squad game, Chapman looked great during his two innings of work.  All the Giants fans around us were impressed.  Lecure, on the other hand, lookdc like he was pitching batting practice.  Beyond the hits and runs he gave up, even the outs he got were tagged.

Heisey hit a LONG opposite field bomb.  Ludwick and Valdez (yes, we spotted him, Champ) hit long doubles.

At practice this morning, Francisco looked awful.  Bobbled half the balls hit his way, flipped balls to first without looking like he cared, and took awful hacks in batting practice.  All we had to do was watch how seriously Votto and Rolen took their workouts on the adjoining field to realize what a real pro does and doesn't look like.

Scottsdale Stadium is a great place to see a game.  They had 10,000 fans there on a Friday afternoon, and it wasn't the "quiet" place I described in the starter.  Lots of friendly fans, lots of good energy.  Oh, and we had a pork/beef brisket BBQ sandwich which was the best of its kind I've ever had.

Enough for now.  My son and I are having a blast--living the Spring Training dream.

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3/9/2012 11:30:26 PM #

Redwakeup

I saw similar things from Francisco in AA ball. Had cement in his shoes on D at 3rd and was always swinging for the right field scoreboard.

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3/9/2012 6:47:17 PM #

Amy

Some interesting tidbits from Hal. Love the Votto story.

www.daytondailynews.com/.../..._along_just_as.html

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3/9/2012 8:05:28 PM #

genewv

Doc,

Looks like we may have been a year late trading Francisco.

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3/9/2012 8:06:34 PM #

genewv

By the way, thanks for the eye witness report. That is valuable info for those of us not there.

Talent means a lot, attitude the rest.

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3/9/2012 8:41:17 PM #

Champ Summers

I don't know if I'm alarmed or not but today in Goodyear the Royals pitcher K's the first 5 batters. Yesterday Greinke stuck out 6 in his couple innings and the day before we struck out 13 times.

Oddly Stubbs may have only 1 K this spring.

It's early but what gives?

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3/9/2012 8:45:58 PM #

Champ Summers

On another note, as Doc reported, Sam LeCure was shelled again. Its early but he better pull it together. With guys like Brackman and Judy in camp he needs a better showing. Carlos Fisher looks better.

Another thing to keep in the back of your mind is Jeff Francis. He has the ability to opt out after 3/28. Maybe the Reds get creative to find him a spot on the big league club. LeCure poor outings and Bray and Madson's aches may have the reds looking at a number of alternatives.

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3/9/2012 9:14:45 PM #

Champ Summers

I don't usually watch college hoops but that was crazy

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3/9/2012 9:16:07 PM #

genewv

Anyone that has Soccer's phone number better call to make sure he is still breathing.

Great win for Cincy fans. I love it!

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3/10/2012 10:34:58 AM #

soccerdad13

had em all the way! i was watching it at a sports bar in Stow Ohio snd there happened to be about 15-20 UC fans there,two of which I found out to be naighbors of one of SocDaughters old club soccer teammates. It was a blast!

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3/10/2012 10:38:13 AM #

soccerdad13

Had em all the way! I was watching it at a sports bar in Stow Ohio snd there happened to be about 15-20 UC fans there,two of which I found out to be neighbors of one of SocDaughters old club soccer teammates. It was a blast!

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3/9/2012 9:17:39 PM #

genewv

March Madness is a beautiful thing.

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3/9/2012 9:21:27 PM #

Dawginnaples

Whoa-o-o-o-o Whoa-o-o-o-o Whoa-o-o-o-o thump,thump,thump,thump[i]...UC[/i]

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3/9/2012 10:51:48 PM #

genewv

Looking like UC and Louisville in the finals--no Eastern Elite!

I know Louisville does not have many fans outside of Louisville--I think? --anyway, glad none of the BB only schools are in the finals, or ND, who only plays BB in the league, because they are elite and don't have to. I still prefer Louisville to ND--I feel sure RF does not feel the same, and I understand why.

I am on a redneck anger management program, but it is not working very well.

Year of the upstarts!

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3/9/2012 11:00:16 PM #

genewv

BJ,

Sorry to see your volunteers go down. they sure finished strong. Sign of good things to cone? I think so, if the guy can recruit.

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3/9/2012 11:00:46 PM #

genewv

Good things to come, I do mean.

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3/9/2012 11:40:58 PM #

Redwakeup

Started going down to spring training probably in the mid '90's. My younger brother started going while in Med school. I don't know if he has ever missed. I've probably missed 4 or 5 seasons due mostly to work. Love hitting all of the ball parks. It's the rite of spring. Get's you out of the cold and until a few years ago, was the only time during the baseball season you could convince yourself that the Reds had any kind of a shot. ('Course that's all changed, now)

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3/10/2012 12:45:14 AM #

Champ Summers

awesome...the Browns just got c blocked by the redskins. The #2 pick for 3 first rounders.

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3/10/2012 10:27:53 AM #

Mary

Reds ‏ @Reds

  
The 2012 Grand Marshal of the Findlay Market @Reds Opening Day Parade will be @AaronBoone_ESPN!

I always liked Aaron Boone, and never more so than when Hal McCoy told the story of him giving Hal the pep talk the first spring training when he showed up with his diminished sight

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3/10/2012 10:38:55 AM #

soccerdad13

Had em all the way! I was watching it at a sports bar in Stow Ohio snd there happened to be about 15-20 UC fans there,two of which I found out to be neighbors of one of SocDaughters old club soccer teammates. It was a blast!

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3/10/2012 10:39:44 AM #

soccerdad13

Had em all the way! I was watching it at a sports bar in Stow Ohio snd there happened to be about 15-20 UC fans there,two of which I found out to be neighbors of one of SocDaughters old club soccer teammates. It was a blast!

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3/10/2012 11:03:47 AM #

Champ Summers

Sam LeCure ‏ @mrLeCure


Keep workin keep workin, I know I will, I know it will turn out the way it was meant to.

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3/10/2012 11:04:42 AM #

Champ Summers

Reds ‏ @Reds

Phillips 4, Valdez 6, Heisey 9, Ludwick 7, Francisco 5, Frazier 3, Jones 8, Cozart DH, Hanigan 2, Cueto RHP

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3/10/2012 11:06:50 AM #

Champ Summers

If you have MLB Network today's game is being replayed at 11pm tonight vs Oakalnd.

The A's sport a line up with Cespedes in the OF and Manny as the DH

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3/10/2012 12:05:59 PM #

Mary

It's on live at 3:04 pm ET on mlb.tv online

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3/10/2012 11:11:40 AM #

Champ Summers

AAT...I was reading your post above and I just can't see how the math works out with pitchers.

I guess they feel Cueto won't repeat and Latos will see a drop off in GABB(Great American Band Box). The bullpen is improved and with the starters improved the bullpen will be better rested and therefore more effective.

I may not share a ton of faith in Arroyo and Bailey but I do thing Arroyo will be better than last year and Bailey is a dark horse if he stays in the 5 slot. If he is healthy he will be the most improved pitcher in 2012.

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3/10/2012 11:15:06 AM #

Champ Summers

Personally I like Arroyo in the 5 slot(if he's closer to the old Arroyo). I'd like to see Leake and Arroyo separated in the rotation.

Another thing is often the #5 faces the number 1 as the season progresses. He's probably the most prepared mentally for that match up although I think Leake and Bailey would be OK too.

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3/10/2012 11:30:53 AM #

RedFaced

Been MIA for a day or so.

Soccer - I'm so sorry to hear of your friend losing their son at such an early age - heck any age is bad, I honestly don't know how people deal with that kind of tragedy.  Prayers indeed.

On a high note, how about your Bearcats?  They played what I felt was a very smart game against 'Cuse.  Made some good decisions down the stretch and held on for the win.  I was really impressed with their game plan and execution.  Congrats.  Oh and good luck against "the Ville" as the losers up the road like to refer to themselves as.  

BJ - sorry about your Vols bowing out last night.  They played what I felt was one of their worst games offensively in the last 12-15 games they've played and it just came on a night when the opponent took advantage of it.  Stokes looked to be a bit off of his game, the pressure of the game may have gotten to him some which is understandable given his age and experience.   They made good strides this year, wish they could have won another game or two and gotten into the tourney but I think you guys had a much better year than most felt you would and as Gene said, if they can recruit well the future looks pretty good for you guys.

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3/10/2012 11:31:31 AM #

RedFaced

I've never been to Spring training, I have enjoyed reading the experiences you have all shared.  Thank you.

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3/10/2012 11:34:48 AM #

Champ Summers

ramsey.mlblogs.com/.../

I hope Ramsey posts this when I'm out there.

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3/10/2012 12:10:32 PM #

Amy

Awesome, so we get Latos for Friday's game.

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3/10/2012 1:04:26 PM #

Champ Summers

We do.

I get the combo of Bailey and Chapman Wed for the SS day night DH. Then its Cueto vs the Pujols and the Angels, LAtos Friday and looks like Arroyo on Saturday.

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3/10/2012 1:53:12 PM #

Amy

You get the entire rotation! That SS day was a good idea for maximizing baseball time.

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3/10/2012 3:51:30 PM #

Champ Summers

I miss Leake but thats OK. I've seen him the past 2 years.

If you recall I tried that SS thing two years ago and Chapman was starting the first game. My plane had a mechanical issue an we had to change equipment. When we got there he was already done for the day.

This year I did everything possible to avoid it. I have a 6:30 direct flight to PHX getting in at 8:45. The Druncle has one that arrives at 9:45 connecting through Dallas. Fingers crossed.

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3/10/2012 3:59:44 PM #

Amy

Oh yeah, I just counted to 5 and stopped. Math is hard.

Good luck on the flights. I just booked a May trip to VA and used 8K more miles to not have a 44-minute layover in LaGuardia. That's a missed flight waiting to happen. Going through ATL instead--that airport's easy.

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3/10/2012 12:04:50 PM #

rpa

What the hell?  Time to change clocks already?

I hate DST.  Seriously stupid.

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3/10/2012 12:19:09 PM #

Amy

There were many things that weren't great about Indiana, but I did enjoy the stubborn refusal to "do" DST. (I guess they caved a few years back.)

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3/10/2012 1:06:14 PM #

Champ Summers

I should always stay DST. If/when you have kids and you work like I do its hard to get out and do the after work outside stuff with the kids. I love DST...I just hate the change.

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3/10/2012 3:02:13 PM #

rpa

If we like DST so much, let's just stay on it year round.  The time change thing is stupid.  We have electricity now.  If we want more daylight in the evening, let's just change all the time zones.

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3/10/2012 3:53:02 PM #

Champ Summers

Thats what I'm saying. Either the work day should be 8 to 4 or give me DST year round.

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3/10/2012 1:13:19 PM #

Champ Summers


John Fay ‏ @johnfayman

RT @cbomkamp Going to ST for games on 3/20 and 3/22. Know who will pitch those games?//Cueto going today, then Latos, Arroyo, Leake, Baiely

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3/10/2012 3:02:50 PM #

Mary

John Fay ‏ @johnfayman

    
Baker said Bryan Price told him Chapman's mechanics yesterday were the best they've been. #reds

Now if he can just keep them that way for 6-8 innings per start.....

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3/10/2012 3:09:12 PM #

Mary

Watching the A's broadcast and the first thing that caught my ear was the bit that "Manny has taken the young Cuban Cespedes under his wing to help him acclimate to the US".  I'm not so sure that that is the best thing for him in any way.

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3/10/2012 3:30:32 PM #

Mary

1F's error on a routine third out in the top of the first puts the A's up 1-0.  1F is solidifying his possession of Dusty's Doghouse

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3/10/2012 3:47:58 PM #

bjsReds1

Great win yesterday by UC.  Congrats Soccer.  

Red and Gene, last night was one of the toughest UT games I've witnessed in a long time.  My only gripe was the officiating.  Sure, TN played awful, but Ole Piss is a crappy team that played football last night.  The refs just got tired of calling fouls on them.  The fact those two teams ended up with the same number of fouls at the end was a joke.  Despite UT's poor play, they still should have won.

Still can't be too upset though.  I love this team and how far they've come.  What Cuonzo has done with this team is nothing short of remarkable.  No offense to Coach Cal, but the job Martin has done deserved coach of the year.  I've never seen a bad team like that improve over the course of the season.  I also think he answered the recruiting question by pulling Stokes.  The great thing is that pretty much the entire team is back next year, sans Tatum.  Give these guys, particularly Stokes, an offseason together including a summer tour in Italy, and I think they are easily a top 20 team or better next year.

Thus, I'm not sure they aren't better off in the NIT.  If they can rebound from yesterday, I think they will get a 1 or 2 seed in the NIT and can win several games if not the whole thing which will give them far more practice and experience than a one and done in the NCAA would do.

Great news on Chapman yesterday.  With Bailey pitching mostly to Hanigan, all he has to do is repeat what he did last year throwing to Hanigan and he's the #3 starter on this team.  Champ and Doc, I've never been to Spring Training, but one day hopefully I'll get there - love your stories.

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3/10/2012 5:01:38 PM #

RedFaced

BJ - I actually meant to mention the fact that I felt Cuonzo should have gotten SEC coach of the year.  I was really surprised he did not. A lot of times those coach of the year awards come a year or two later, just the way those awards are awarded it seems.  

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3/10/2012 7:09:15 PM #

DocProc

Your intrepid ST reporter, checking in.

Went to the Oakland A's park today in Phoenix.  Not very charming.  It's dropped in the middle of the desert and simply has brown dirt hills behind the fences in the outfield (no seats out there, no green to be seen anywhere except the field).  We'll put this park on the "glad we visited once, won't return" list.  It continues to amaze us how many parks there are down here.  We're staying in Scottsdale (great town!) and there are three parks within 15 minutes of our hotel, housing four different home teams.  

Glorious day for baseball again--sunny and 75.  The Reds didn't play well.  JuanFran made another error and looks like he doesn't give a flip.  Negron sucked even worse when he replaced him at third.  It was an ugly game (3 errors for each squad), but you know what?  It was a beautiful Spring Training game.  We ended up in the front row and got our annual picture with feet on the dugout.  No complaints.

Went to some batting cages this morning and had a fun time.  About to head back to the casino after doing really well there last night (blackjack).  Of course, it's really stupid to return and expect the same results.  But we're really stupid.

Here's the place with the incredible BBQ we had at the ballpark yesterday.  We might head there for dinner tonight, if it's not too packed.  http://www.donandcharlies.com/

Amy and Champ, I can tell you're getting psyched for ST.  Just know that it's just as great as ever.

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3/10/2012 8:19:41 PM #

Amy

Psyched is right. Six days for me. Not that I'm counting at all or anything.

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3/10/2012 8:31:20 PM #

Soccerdad13

Looks like Paul Daugherty got DocProc riled up! Sorry for the triple and quadruple posts earlier. I left my laptop on the kitchen counter when I went to Kent and used the piece o' crap computer in the business center of the hotel.
For those of you who care,Great Lakes Brewing Company Irish Ale and Double Bock are really good. Way too good, judging from how my head felt this morning.

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3/10/2012 10:28:32 PM #

DocProc

Daugherty really pissed me off today.  What an a-hole.  I have no idea what he gets out of writing columns like that one.

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3/10/2012 9:24:58 PM #

Amy

news.cincinnati.com/.../Jocketty-builds-cast-character

Some good stuff from Mr. Fayman

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3/10/2012 10:31:32 PM #

DocProc

Like that a lot.  

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3/10/2012 10:09:03 PM #

Grizzlyfox

Bold prediction since I haven't been around for a few days:

Juan Fran starts in AAA. No walks in 15 at bats. Typical. Is he even trying to get better at the plate? Of course, 4Ks. Early, but no progress based on what I've been reading.

Chapman makes the rotation. Lord knows how they do it but they do. You gamble on that arm. If it doesn't work, you switch him out in May. But you gamble on that arm big time. Early in the year if he's throwing strikes he will dominate teams.

Frazier sounds like he's playing well.

Back to Chapman: Ways to get him in
1) Arroyo to pen. He won't take that well.
2) Trade Bailey. That might be dumb. But he and Juan Fran could bring us back a good piece.
3) Trade or move Leake to the bullpen. Not a great move, but a package of Leake and Juan Fran again could bring something back.

I think the key is convincing one of Arroyo, Bailey or Leake to go to the pen for the best of the team.

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3/10/2012 10:25:56 PM #

Champ Summers

I would bet a large sum of money or beer that neither of these thing happen.

Juan is out of options so he will either be with the team, be traded or the most likely scenario is a mystery injury that puts him on the DL until he gets in shape.

As for Chapman, he needs more work. Let me see him get through a line up a second time before he is anywhere near making this team out of camp. He will spent 6 to 10 weeks in AAA unless there is an injury.

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3/10/2012 11:15:53 PM #

Grizzlyfox

Fail on the AAA thing. I'm losing it.

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3/10/2012 10:46:43 PM #

rpa

I would trade Bailey and Francisco for almost anything of value.

I think Champ is right though.  Francisco is going to get "injured".

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3/10/2012 11:05:33 PM #

Amy

That calf will be bothering him again, I'll bet. I won't bet a large sum of money or beer, but still, that's my guess.

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3/11/2012 12:14:23 AM #

Mary

I heard on the Reds' broadcast that it's not in the same leg as the calf problem that DL'd him last year. Seems injury prone, eh?

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3/11/2012 12:19:34 AM #

Grizzlyfox

Maybe we should just send him a few calves?

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3/11/2012 1:28:40 AM #

Soccerdad13

Sacrifice his fatted calves.

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3/11/2012 1:29:13 AM #

Soccerdad13

or sacrifice his fat ass calves

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3/11/2012 9:39:35 AM #

Dawginnaples

Just catching up after missing all of yesterday's action. I had a real good reason. I went to the Bonita Blues Festival. For those of y'all who like this genre, check out this sibling trio, Trampled Under Foot. Just amazing. I am not kidding when I say several people had tears in their eyes when she sang this live. And her brother was recently selected "Blues Guitarist of the Year". Didn't get to see Magic Slim and the Teardrops, who headlined, (dinner plans) but I can't imagine they were any better than this bunch. If you get the chance, see these folks LIVE.

http://youtu.be/scJGe_eD0q4

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3/11/2012 12:13:14 PM #

Dawginnaples

...submitted w/o comment:

   http://youtu.be/ES_E1dFOMLM

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3/11/2012 1:01:28 PM #

Soccerdad13

Oh man!!!

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3/12/2012 11:18:53 PM #

Frank_Robinsons_Ghost

Wow.

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3/11/2012 11:37:51 AM #

Mary

John Fay ‏ @johnfayman


Today's lineup vs. Angels: Rodriguez 4, Cozart 6, Votto 3, Rolen 5, Bruce DH, Stubbs 8, Heisey 7, Mesoraco 2, Phipps 9. Latos P. #reds

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3/11/2012 12:16:55 PM #

DocProc

Sitting at the Phoenix airport next to Alice Cooper.  Just said hello to him.  I was a huge fan as a teenager.  I would have peed my pants to meet him back then.

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3/11/2012 12:18:02 PM #

Amy

He has a restaurant out there somewhere, right?

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3/11/2012 12:25:30 PM #

DocProc

Yeah, pretty sure he does.  We also went to his restaurant in Cleveland one time.

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3/11/2012 12:26:37 PM #

RedFaced

They server up chicken heads I believe.  

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3/11/2012 12:27:02 PM #

RedFaced

server, server something.  Kind of ruins it doesn't it.

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3/11/2012 1:29:41 PM #

Champ Summers

Im pretty sure one of his restaurants is near or in the D backs stadium

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3/11/2012 12:31:08 PM #

RedFaced

Soccer - well dude, there's a bigger tourney coming up.  I kind of get the feeling my cats might go down today.  I think Vandy is a pretty good team first off but I'm not so sure UK is hungry for the SEC crown, just not playing on the same level they were before the tourney started.  

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3/11/2012 12:40:54 PM #

rpa

Re: Votto - I don't want to play with a bunch of jerks, either.  It doesn't mean I will not do it anyway if someone offers to pay me twice as much.

Re: Uncle Walt - I do not want to hear about Jocketty's "jerk factor".  I want to hear about why I should think this team can win the division this year.

Re: Paul Daugherty - I had to go read his column to see what had written on Saturday that was so offensive.  I usually don't even bother reading him unless someone brings up something he's written.  Reading that article made me remember why I just don't bother.  I will never forget that he was the guy that wanted to trade Votto and Bailey for Joe Blanton.  Or the guy that was convinced that Dusty Baker was a great hire because he manages from his gut, not based on things like evidence, results, or even common sense.

So yeah, hope is for dummies.  I agree.  But does anyone remember there being a lot of "hope" in 2003?  I thought this team was going to be awful in 2003.   Bob Boone was the manager (strike 1), Griffey was not healthy (strike 2), the worst starting staff this team ever put together (strike 3).  I thought the team would have a losing record.  Boy, did they ever.  At least it got Boone fired.  God knows how long we would have had to watch that shitshow had he actually put up a winning season.  In fact, Boone NEVER managed a team to a winning record.  In KC or Cincinnati.  Meh.

Not that he had a chance in 2003, anyway.  I always like to look at who gets the starts for a team, here was the division of labor in 2003 for the pitching staff:
Paul Wilson (28)
Danny Graves (26)
Ryan Dempster (20)
Jimmy Haynes (18)
John Bale (9)
Aaron Harang (9)
John Riedling (8)
Jimmy Anderson (7)
Seth Etherton (7)
Jeff Austin (7)
Josh Hall (5)
Todd Van Poppel (4)
Dan Serafini (4)
Jose Acevedo (4)
Chris Reitsma (3)
Scott Randall (2)
Brian Reith (1)

Seriously.  17 starting pitchers.  And, amazingly, 59 of them went to guys with an ERA of OVER 6.00.   That is just epic bad.   But it was not all that surprising.  The reason for the excitement in 2003 was the new park, not the team.

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3/11/2012 12:43:19 PM #

Grizzlyfox

Ace, PAUL WILSON!!

I miss Todd Van Poppel. I have no idea who Dan Serafini is nor Jeff Austin nor Scott Randall nor Josh Hall.

Ouch. I miss Eric Milton.

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3/11/2012 1:28:47 PM #

Champ Summers

that was a stroll down terrible memory lane. I had 3 nightmares last night...two involving snakes and one involving my son getting a compound fracture in his arm during a football game. Now you put this in my head for tonight???

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3/11/2012 1:45:34 PM #

Champ Summers

Dallas Latos ‏ @DallasLatos


Realizing your boobs jiggle when you brush your teeth & bursting out in laughter mid-brush is totally normal right? Asking for myself.

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3/11/2012 2:17:01 PM #

Soccerdad13

Now I have Dallas Latos' jiggling boobs on my mind. Beats the hell out of compound arm fractures,snakes and Jimmy Haynes.

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3/11/2012 2:21:34 PM #

RedFaced

Hell my boobs jiggle when I brush my teeth.

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3/11/2012 2:28:09 PM #

Champ Summers

back to nightmares

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3/11/2012 7:58:42 PM #

Soccerdad13

All the sudden compound fractures sound pretty good.

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3/11/2012 2:31:43 PM #

Champ Summers

From Fay

MADSON ‘OUTSTANDING:’ Closer Ryan Madson (sore elbow) continues to make good progress.

“He threw the ball outstanding today in long-toss,” trainer Paul Lessard said.

Lessard said Madson will throw a flat-ground bullpen session Monday if he feels OK after Sunday’s session.

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3/11/2012 2:32:45 PM #

Champ Summers

John Fay ‏ @johnfayman
Larkin in camp, Madson update. cin.ci/oVL1kH #reds

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3/11/2012 2:33:13 PM #

Champ Summers

try this

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/

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3/11/2012 2:47:53 PM #

Champ Summers

Anyone here get to watch kyle Lotzkar yesterday? Back when he was a 1st rounder in 2007 he was rated highly but also was considered a risk because if issues with his delivery. He was considered an arm injury waiting to happen.

In 2008 the injury came in the shape of a fractured elbow accompanied with TJ surgery. He rehabbed all of 2009 and most of 2010. Last year he repeated Dayton class A showing signs of his former self. He showed great slider and was touching the mid 90s on the gun.

The reds had to protect him from rule 5 this year. He is 22 and could be on a fast track.

Yesterday his slider was very very good and his change was working. He touched 93 consistently as well. He is healthy and has great stuff. What the reds do with him?

Could they turn him into a back end bull pen guy and use him up while he's healthy? Or since he seems to have adjusted his delivery put him through the system at a somewhat accelerated rate and have him on the doorstep in 2014.

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3/11/2012 2:56:39 PM #

Amy

Jamie Ramsey ‏ @Jamieblog
Chapman hit a long, long home run today in batting practice. Good stuff.

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3/11/2012 3:10:08 PM #

Mary

Maybe he'll get a chance to channel his inner DTrain hitting self when he gets to start this year

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3/11/2012 3:11:42 PM #

Amy

I really, REALLY hope it happens again Saturday morning. I wanna see that. Last year, Matt Maloney was just hammering the ball in BP, which was fun to watch.

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3/11/2012 3:33:25 PM #

Champ Summers

forgot about that. He was knocking the hell out of it.

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3/12/2012 11:21:50 AM #

Champ Summers

Reds ‏ @Reds

Phillips 4, Cozart 6, Cairo 3, Frazier 7, Francisco 5, Ludwick DH, Valdez 8, Hanigan 2, Jones 9, Arroyo RHP.

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3/11/2012 3:35:52 PM #

Amy

This is the exact kind of thing we've been talking about overhearing. Although they talk about superheroes, and D-Train talked about women. But whatever, this is funny:

hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/.../

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3/11/2012 4:31:27 PM #

Mary

Sounds like Latos is not having as good of an inning in the second as he did in the first

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3/11/2012 5:04:19 PM #

Mary

Snacks is showing off his throwing arm in this game--he's two for two tossing out runners attempting to steal

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3/11/2012 5:13:41 PM #

Amy

BAhahahaha:

thebiglead.com/.../

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3/11/2012 7:03:34 PM #

Dawginnaples

Knock, knock, knock. Anybody in here? Hello? Where is everybody?

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3/11/2012 7:38:09 PM #

Amy

I left to go deliver the neighborhood Girl Scout cookie sales and make an airport run. I was listening in the car, though Smile Marty likes to talk basketball. I ain't lyin'.

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3/11/2012 7:43:29 PM #

Dawginnaples

I got back from church just in time to hear the end. He sure likes to rally 'round his Tarheels. I was diggin the Cowboy's take.
Big O wasn't very impressive today. Hope he was working on something besides getting AA hitters out.

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3/11/2012 7:55:11 PM #

Amy

We should keep a list of everyone Marty insults this season. Do we have enough storage space for that, RedFaced?

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3/11/2012 8:01:01 PM #

timmytwoshoezzz

Amy, got a bad of thin Monte to sell? And I mean a cardboard box, not a 40 cookie box

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3/11/2012 9:47:59 PM #

Amy

I can check and see if we can still get one, if you're serious.

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3/11/2012 8:02:15 PM #

timmytwoshoezzz

Damn autocorrect

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3/11/2012 9:20:38 PM #

Soccerdad13

Love that website!

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3/12/2012 10:19:37 AM #

Amy

My current work project is making me insane. I am not even joking. And I need to finish the drafts before I go to Arizona. So I am complaining about it here instead of working, because CLEARLY that makes more sense.

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3/12/2012 10:31:25 AM #

DocProc

Understood.  Makes perfect sense.

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3/12/2012 10:33:30 AM #

DocProc

Hey Everybody:

I run an annual March Madness pool that's adds some twists to the traditional bracket approach.  It's 20 bucks to enter.  If you're interested, drop me an email at proctorr@nku.edu and I'll send you an invite.

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3/12/2012 11:21:32 AM #

Mary

I  couldn't resist adding my two cents to the end of Doc's starter

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3/12/2012 11:22:27 AM #

RedFaced

Now I'm tempted to turn the whole site blue.  

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3/12/2012 12:12:55 PM #

DocProc

Ah, the privileges of being moderators!  Smile

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3/12/2012 1:29:00 PM #

Mary

Precisely!

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3/13/2012 2:55:23 PM #

Mary

Just watched the latest cooking show--"Cooking with Bronson" cincinnati.com/.../

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3/12/2012 11:22:05 AM #

Champ Summers

Reds ‏ @Reds


Phillips 4, Cozart 6, Cairo 3, Frazier 7, Francisco 5, Ludwick DH, Valdez 8, Hanigan 2, Jones 9, Arroyo RHP.

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3/12/2012 11:31:25 AM #

genewv

Just checking in, assuring all I am alive.

Someone changed the time. They don't ever tell us anything down here in the coal fields.

Good reading material, as always.

Francisco makes me sick to my stomach. I always hated to get excited, then duped, not once, but twice, on the same player. He is on my list.

RF,

Good call on the Vandy game and your Cats. Could be good, you never know. Both of my State Championship teams lost a huge game to our biggest rival on the last game of the season just before the tourney started--it definitely did a lot for our focus. Since UK has so many youngsters, could have the same effect. If you were more experienced, I would say no, but, now, probably a plus.

BJ,

When you are trying to build a program, going to the NIT and getting a little run can be much more productive than a one and out in the NCAA. Once the program is established ( Like ours is now under Huggins ), a NCAA bid, even if 1 and done, is much preferred to a NIT bid. It is better that recruits know when they come they will definitely be playing in The Dance--regardless of circumstances. However, you guys are in the building mode, so I totally agree with your assessment. Belien did exactly the same thing to get our NCAA mini run started.   Your guy dd a heck of a job this year.


Soccer,

Your Bearcats did one heck of a job this year with a short bench, post brawl atmosphere. Cronin's best job yet, IMO. Congrats.

I will be leaving for the State Tourney tomorrow, so won't be around for a few days. You guys and gals hold the fort down till I rid myself of March Madness on the high school level. One of my former players, coaching at my last school, has a shot at a title this year. Kind of excited for him.

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3/12/2012 12:21:35 PM #

Soccerdad13

Good luck to your guy!  Cronin did a great job. After the fight the took ownership of it,didn't blame XU(Even though they were the instigators of the whole thing) and made the team realize how fortunate they are to have the opportunity to play college basketball. He did a pretty darned good X and O job too, in my unlearned opinion. I think he finally has this thing on track. He has some athletes on the bench,just not basketball players yet.

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3/12/2012 12:42:24 PM #

bjsReds1

I have learned by watching Bruce Pearl and now Cuonzo that maybe the toughest thing to do as a college basketball coach is take great athletes and make them great basketball players.  

Some coaches, like Pearl, are good enough motivators and play a style to where they can take a bunch of athletes with one or two good basketball players and win.  Sort of smoke and mirrors in a sense, though it can work.  

The great coaches, though, can teach great athletes how to become great basketball players - these are the ones who win championships.  Pearl's guys never really improved and developed from a basketball sense.  Cuonzo Martin has developed more players at UT in one year than Pearl did in 6.

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3/12/2012 1:28:44 PM #

Soccerdad13

I like to look at what Huggins did at UC with the likes of Van Exel,Corie Blount,Jason Maxiell,Steve Logan and most of all Kenyon Martin. None of those guys were highly recruited, but they bought in to the hard work Huggins required and got a lot better. When Kenyon Martin was a freshman he was skinny,unskilled and athletic as hell. When he was a senior he was national player of the year. Justin Jackson in a way reminds me of him. I'm glad to see UT on the way back up. It's good for college basketball to have that rivalry with Kentucky be strong.

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3/12/2012 3:10:12 PM #

RedFaced

Gene - I saw a friend post this on Facebook and of course thought of you.  Hate to make you share in our misery but here goes...

Most miserable states.
2. Kentucky
Well-being index score: 63.3
Life expectancy: 76.2 (7th lowest)
Obesity: 31.3 percent (5th highest)
Median household income: $40,062 (4th lowest)
Adult population with high school diploma or higher: 81.9 percent (5th lowest)
West Va. is the worst.

We might be miserable by other states standards but we are pretty happy with our own misery.  

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3/12/2012 3:29:21 PM #

Amy

Eight. Pound. Burger. www.cbssports.com/.../nationals-to-sell-8-pound-strasburger-this-season

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3/12/2012 3:51:41 PM #

Soccerdad13

Juan Francisco just asked for a trade to the Nationals

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3/12/2012 3:59:31 PM #

RedFaced

ROFL, now that is funny, damn funny even.

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3/12/2012 4:03:18 PM #

DocProc

Agreed!

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3/12/2012 4:41:15 PM #

Champ Summers

I didn't roll on the floor or anything but I enjoyed the comment very much.

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3/12/2012 4:05:38 PM #

Grizzlyfox

Dusty Baker Speaks!

And he says some nonsense about still hating the Cubs b/c they were meanies to him, that he's not sure if the Reds are meanies and that the jury is still out, and that its as much his decision to come back next year as it is ownership's decision.

Can we fire him yet? See Fay's blog.

But my summation deals with the issue fairly nicely.

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3/12/2012 4:38:58 PM #

Amy

LOL, "meanies"

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3/12/2012 4:48:41 PM #

bjsReds1

Dusty is just delusional.  I really wonder how Walt works this guy at all.

Grizz, I like your summation.  It shows Dusty for the 4 year old that he really is.  Quite honestly, the guy just needs to grow a pair.

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3/12/2012 5:04:54 PM #

rpa

Agree with BJ here... Dusty is delusional about his abilities (and, I think, his reputation).

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3/12/2012 4:57:51 PM #

Champ Summers

John Fay ‏ @johnfayman


Arroyo said to me before the game: "Every once in while you're scared to pitch. This is one of those days. I've never pitched in this park."

And he's getting shelled as we speak.

Something about that ball park too. We visited it last year and the first 5 innings took 2 hours. We drank like 7 Old Styles each by the 5th inning.

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3/12/2012 5:06:51 PM #

Amy

With the drunk Cubs fans. But that's redundant.

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3/12/2012 5:15:20 PM #

genewv

RF,

No one can embarrass us concerning where we live, what we are like, etc. All I can say is if they want to trash the state, better do it up in Morgantown, or one of the panhandles, where there are lots of folks living, working, going to school, from out of state. Do that down here in the coal fields and you most likely will get decked. We don't care what friends say, not at all, and we ourselves are allowed to say anything, but everyone else is off limits. There are more things back in some of those coal mines than black gold.

Seriously, that stuff does not bother me at all. If I did not love the place, the people in it, I would have left long ago. I live about 300 feet from where I grew up.  The reason we are so sparsely populated is because we are so particular!

Soccer,

Cronin is becoming a PR guy, a program developer, a player developer, and a pretty darn good X and O guy. There are not any real secrets today, but I have found one of the keys to beating someone you have little chance against is to use something so old it is new--to most teams--the zone defense, not the trapping kind, but the basic matchup2-3, 3-2 zone. Cronin's use of the zone was terrific in the BE tourney. Teams really don't know how to attack a base match-up anymore. It is a dinosaur. It has had a lot to do with Syracuse's success over the years. Of course, when teams play Syracuse, they work and work on attacking it, but when someone else throws it up out of nowhere, they have not game planned for it, hard to teach kids how to attack it on the fly. Anyway, I think your guy has come a long way, I really do.

BJ,

Agree on your man Martin. Got to recruit them, them develop them. It is a multistage process, guys like Pearl stopped at step one--recruit them. If you get enough of them, you can win, but you are not likely to win that many big ones come tourney time. The college basketball graveyards are full of coaches that had some success with part 1, then faded away.

Soccer,

Huggins developed DeSean Butler here in much the same way, Joe Alexander, John Flowers, Wellington Smith, etc. They were not NBA stars, but really solid college stars. Like I said, it is a process.

RF,

By the way. I would match-up zone your Wildcats see what they could do if I were on the other side. I think they might have issues.

Francisco to Washington for a 8 pound burger! Now that is funny.

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3/12/2012 6:32:32 PM #

rpa

Gene,

I think you are spot on about that zone being a bit part of Syracuse's success this year (and in general while Boeheim has been there).  I have watched a lot (too much?) Syracuse basketball living and/or working in WNY the last few years, and it always sticks out most when they play out of conference... the other Big East teams at least know it is coming even if they do not really have a good way to attack.  But the non-conference teams that do not plan for seeing Syracuse twice a year usually look pretty clueless.  It always seemed to me (good to have a coach's confirmation) that it isn't the type of thing you can prepare for that well in a day or on the fly.  And if teams don't see it much elsewhere... well, it's good to be Syracuse in a tournament is what I guess I am saying.

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3/12/2012 6:32:52 PM #

rpa

Or, a big part.  You know, the opposite of a bit part.  

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3/12/2012 5:28:12 PM #

genewv

I am trying my best not to let Dusty ruin my pre-season ST, my March Madness, so I won't comment.

Maybe just this one suggestion, Walt has my permission to sendDusty and Francisco to anyone for anyone to be named later.

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3/12/2012 5:49:30 PM #

Amy

Wasn't Negron an IF last year?

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3/12/2012 5:57:57 PM #

DocProc

He was posing as one on Saturday.  

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3/12/2012 6:00:16 PM #

Amy

Hahaha. That's right. So, IF/OF now.

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3/12/2012 6:07:55 PM #

SilentBob

Negron. "The Poser". I like it.

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3/12/2012 6:24:33 PM #

Champ Summers

Negron is a SS but played all over including a lot of CF in AAA last year. He will need to be versatile because Janish will be at SS and Valaika and HROD could be fighting over 2B and/or 3B. If he wants to play he'll need to play everywhere

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3/12/2012 6:26:02 PM #

Amy

There's still time for it to be a 14-13 game like last year's.

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3/12/2012 7:11:54 PM #

RedFaced

Gene - I hear you and knew you'd have the same outlook on the "misery rankings".

I also believe you are correct on the match-up zone comment.  I feel this team is strong enough defensively to overcome a poor offensive showing most nights.  They also have a very good track record for stepping up and closing out games strongly this year.  Key rebounds, blocks, a timely three and so forth through out the season or a couple of defensive stops when needed.  Of course it was the complete absence of these same elements that helped them to lose the game on Sunday.  

I don't know if this team can live up to all the hype and expectations placed on them.  I really don't like it when my team is the favorite to win it all because there's only one outcome that is going to satisfy you and let's face it, it's not that easy no matter how good your team is.  But here it is tourney time and maybe they'll come ready to play every game.  As always I hope UK comes through it all with another championship but I know there's baseball around the corner if they don't.  

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3/12/2012 8:25:37 PM #

Champ Summers

thats the Carlos Fisher we all know and love

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3/12/2012 8:28:06 PM #

Champ Summers

Brackman gives up a HR then walks 2. I hope some of these guys start pulling it together over the next 10 weeks.

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3/13/2012 1:00:25 AM #

rpa

Brackman is a nice signing for some reason.. oh yeah, he's local.  That's about it.

Organization guy.  Meaning, let's hope he isn't one of the 17 starters that gets used this year.

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3/12/2012 8:28:35 PM #

Champ Summers

ummm 10 days not weeks.

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3/12/2012 8:58:43 PM #

Champ Summers

So when does this place start picking up? I'm heading out to AZ wednesday and I am so jacked. We are talking more basketball than baseball around here.

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3/12/2012 9:01:36 PM #

DocProc

I'm still basking in the glow of our Spring Training trip this past weekend.  The weather was PERFECT and we had a ton of fun.  I can't remember--will you be seeing all your games at Goodyear?

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3/12/2012 9:10:41 PM #

Champ Summers

Wed SS DH in Goodyear. One at 1 and the other under the lights.
Thur at Tempe vs the Angels with Cueto vs Albert.
Fri at Goodyear night game
Sat 1:05 vs CLE

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3/12/2012 9:23:20 PM #

Champ Summers

I care less how much basketball ya'll talk around hear. I don't have to read every post. We've always had 5 or 6 conversations going on at once. Thats why I like it here. Just wish there was a little more baseball. I'll just go run my mouth on some other slack jaw board to get it out of my system.

I think I'm just losing it because my flight is in like 36 hours

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3/12/2012 9:29:26 PM #

Amy

Don't drink all the ballpark margaritas before I get there.

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3/12/2012 9:30:42 PM #

Champ Summers

you know that won't be our problem. The beer guy better be ready though.

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3/12/2012 9:34:50 PM #

Amy

You can't be the only one to choose a seating area of the ballpark for proximity to both the Reds dugout AND the PBR cart.

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3/12/2012 9:44:36 PM #

Soccerdad13

I need Ash to say something ridiculous to get me fired up, then I'll talk baseball. At this point in spring training,it's like playing a round of golf by yourself when it's almost dark. If you want to throw another ball on the ground because you didn't like the last shot, no biggie.

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3/12/2012 9:55:59 PM #

Champ Summers

Still there seems to be lots to discuss but I get it

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3/12/2012 9:54:07 PM #

Champ Summers

I might be

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3/12/2012 9:15:23 PM #

genewv

Calm down Champ, it will end very soon!

RF,

I knew you were having fun. Of course, as stated, with friends, it really does not matter. I do believe most outstanding these days are designed to score of the bounce, penetrate and score, or kick. Back in the day, everyone knew how to attack the match-up zones. These days, while coaches generally know how, it is translating that to their team that is the issue. They either rush things up, or wait to late to attack, getting poor shots either way. Takes team skill, approach, to attack the match-up zones, not necessarily great individual talent.

RPA,

I actually copied the Boeheim zone many years ago, used it a lot over my career. We always won a lot of games alternating between the M-M and 2-3 match-up, but in my latter coaching years, I noticed the match-up kept getting more and more effective. Finally, I realized why, teams just got very little game time playing against it. Kind of like pulling that old fishing lure out that was hot 10-15 years ago, then the fish got wise to it, and it became a showcase lure in your tackle box, useless for catching fish. Then one day, when all had been going so poorly, you just pulled that rascal out, sharpened a couple hooks, started throwing it, and Bang, Bang, Bang, it was hot again, because everyone else had put it away as well. Of course, before you came into camp, you switched lures so no one would know what you caught the fish on! Same principle, different prey.

I better get off, Champ is wanting to talk baseball!!

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3/12/2012 9:22:03 PM #

genewv

RPA,

I forgot to mention how right you are about teams in the BE attacking the Cuse' zone better, simply because they played against, game planned against it multiple times. Out of league opponents, not so.

Same was true of the Belien offense at WVU. Conference teams finally caught on how to defend it, out of conference teams had almost no chance. Belien has a history of moving on after 5-6 years, and I think this may be one of the major reasons why?

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3/12/2012 9:49:00 PM #

Soccerdad13

John Chaney at Temple always played that gimmicky zone and UC always struggled against it. Even Huggs best teams here had a hard time with it. They did exactly what you said, they would either be reckless when they attacked it,jacked up slop or passed the ball around for 30 seconds while they tried to figure it out and then jacked up slop. Of course all the standing around means no one is getting to the boards. I was glad to see that crazy old goat retire.

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3/13/2012 1:04:42 AM #

rpa

John Chaney was one of my favorites.  Always liked watching Temple confuse the hell out of teams in the tournament.

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3/13/2012 1:04:16 AM #

rpa

You got it.  Familiarity breeds contempt, but it also breeds strategy.  A guy like Beliien has to move around a lot, and it isn't dissimilar to how a hot defensive coordinator suddenly becomes yesterday's news in the NFL, or a hot college FB coach suddenly loses his mojo when none of his conference opponents are fooled by his gimmicky spread offense anymore (looking at you, Joe Tiller).  If you rely on a gimmick, you lose your advantage once everyone catches on to the gimmick.

It's the same in baseball, at least at a management level.  "Moneyball" suddenly didn't work anymore for Billy Beane once guys like Kevin Youkilis became valuable elsewhere.  Well, that and not having Zito/Hudson/Mulder anymore.  But I digress.

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3/12/2012 10:43:31 PM #

genewv

On a personal basis, I could not stand Chaney, but he was a heck of a coach. He matched up out of the 1-3-1, but played it very differently than most who match up out of that thing. Truthfully, it was much harder to learn the way he played it, but man was it effective.

Good call for a old catcher--for a change.

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3/12/2012 11:08:17 PM #

Dawginnaples

Personally, I think the 1-3-1 is one of the most difficult double plays to turn. The 2-3, on the other hand, now that is a lot more common. The 3-2, now that one is rare but not so dificult. Heck, I think even 1Fran has started that particular version. PFFFff! How hard could that be.  

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3/13/2012 1:05:29 AM #

rpa

Who was it that was pitching that game the Reds turned something like three 1-3-1 DPs.  Arroyo?  Weirdest damn thing I ever saw.

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3/13/2012 1:13:03 AM #

rpa

Er, 3-6-1.  But whatever.  It's the thought that counts.

Damned time change.  Can't sleep.

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3/13/2012 1:10:46 AM #

rpa

For what it is worth, when I play college basketball on my PS3, the 1-3-1 is my defense of choice.

In real life, I could never hit a free throw or a layup.  So, meh.

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3/13/2012 1:05:54 AM #

rpa

So, I just registered Titanic-Struggle.com.

Have to figure out what to do with it.  Maybe a Marty Brennman parody?

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3/13/2012 8:17:35 AM #

Amy

See my idea above about keeping track of everyone Marty insults this season. You can put UK/UK fans on the list already. Although this is the preseason--maybe it shouldn't count.

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3/13/2012 8:18:15 AM #

Amy

And Marty pictures with the Haters Gonna Hate caption would be fun, too.

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3/13/2012 8:41:36 AM #

RedFaced

In previous years I've made myself try not to talk much basketball on here.  For one it's a baseball forum. And for two I know I'm in the minority as there aren't many UK fans on here so I didn't want to turn anyone off to my posts.  For some reason I've allowed that rule to slip far too much this year.  I think it started with the Final Four run last year a little.  I'll do my best to curtail the basketball comments here on out.  For the record I do enjoy college basketball, not just UK.  I love the NCAA tourney and I've enjoyed the discussions I've had with many of you concerning basketball.  Perhaps I need to put up a Basketball only forum.  I could call it Titanic-Struggle.com or something.  I wonder if that's taken...

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3/13/2012 9:23:28 AM #

bjsReds1

You're not the only guilty one.  I'm always into college basketball, but this was an exciting season for me, especially the last month or so.  Both of us have the UT/UK rivalry plus the SEC in common.  UC has had a great season to pull in Soccer, and Gene is always up for basketball talk.  

I'm as excited or more about the Reds, but there's not a whole lot of speculation.  The Reds are as set as far as their roster, lineup, rotation, bullpen, etc. as I can remember which doesn't leave as much to discuss.  For me, I'm thrilled over the offseason moves and am cautiously optimistic that not even Dusty will muck it up.  

I will also caution, though, my expectations are higher than ever.  I EXPECT this team to do well, even more than last season.  Thus, I'm just watching right now and don't have too much to say.  While there are a few things still up in the air such as the last roster spot, what to do with Chapman, etc., those are things that I don't feel are critical to the success of the team.  I'm just enjoying it right now.  I'm hoping this positive outlook continues.  We'll know more by the end of April.

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3/13/2012 8:43:08 AM #

RedFaced

RPA - I like the domain name btw.  I think Amy's idea about putting Marty insults on it - maybe it can just be part of the site is a solid idea.  Of course we'll need the help of all of RO to help us police Marty's comments over the course of the season.

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3/13/2012 10:54:22 AM #

rpa

What amazes me is that "titanicstruggle.com" was already taken.  By a squatter, but still.  I guess two words in the dictionary = profit in the world of domain names.

But, I am not trying to run a business or anything so the hyphen doesn't scare me.

I was thinking when I get around to it what I will probably do is just put up embed a youtube vid of Marty's rant about Cubs fans.  That's a good place to start.

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3/13/2012 12:09:45 PM #

RedFaced

That rant never gets old.  I'd like to hear some discussions about ole leather pants also.  

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3/13/2012 12:25:28 PM #

RedFaced

Per Johnny Boy Fay today's lineup against the Royals:

Drew Stubbs 8
Chris Valaika 4
Chris Heisey 7
Jay Bruce 9
Scott Rolen DH
Todd Frazier 5
Devin Mesoraco 2
Neftali Soto 3
Paul Janish 6

Mike Leake P

Sam LeCure, Nick Christiani and Sean Gallagher are scheduled to follow Leake.

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3/13/2012 1:40:39 PM #

Amy

Someone else on here is going to know this poem and agree with me that this is creepy:


Michael E. Anderson ‏ @MANderson_PR
"I am the grass; I cover all." - Carl Sandberg twitpic.com/8vusxr

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3/13/2012 4:29:21 PM #

SDDennis

Way creepy. Jamie Ramsey had a funny caption with a dozer at GABP where he said they were building the pool under the infield. I'm not sure what @MANderson_PR thinks (or knows?) is under the grass.

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3/13/2012 4:55:22 PM #

Soccerdad13

Hell yeah I know that one! I don't see the correlation between Gettysburg,Verdun and a baseball field, but what the heck, who am I to know what goes on in people's heads. I have enough trouble dealing with what goes on in mine.

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3/13/2012 1:51:07 PM #

AshlandATeam

Hey guys. The last few weeks I've had a couple major things that have eaten up all of my disposable thoughts and, therefore, have thought less about the Reds than I have in long, long time.

Then, today, I look at some recent results and notice Bronson Arroyo is getting lit up like... well... 2011.

How long do we give this guy before he gets moved to the pen? I mean... there's too much at stake to let him be the worst starter in baseball for 200 innings again, right? Right.

Methinks it may be time for him to turn into our version of Tim Wakefield - the mop up bullpen/spot starter/beloved franchise veteran.

And, of course, sign Roy Oswalt to take his spot in the rotation.

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3/13/2012 1:57:18 PM #

bjsReds1

Signing Oswalt sure would give the Reds more flexibility.  I think the Reds top 3 in Cueto, Latos, and Leake are great if healthy, but somewhere out of Arroyo, Bailey, and Chapman there needs to be consistent production for the Reds to be what we all hope.

At this point, I'm not sure I don't have more confidence in Homer giving the Reds what they need than I do Bronson.  Until Chapman can pitch through an opponents lineup 3 times effectively and consistently he needs to be in AAA.  I think Oswalt would be a good investment for the Reds.

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3/13/2012 2:05:22 PM #

rpa

Bronson is a veteran.  I will give him the benefit of the doubt in the spring.  If he is still getting lit up at the end of April, then I will worry.  His velocity is up, that was my main concern coming into the spring.

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3/13/2012 2:25:13 PM #

Champ Summers

With RPA here. He's near 90 which is up 5 mph from the end of last season.

Take into consideration that he has struggled in AZ every year. I saw Choo take him deep 3 times. You could say its the breaking ball/dry air thing. Everyone talks about how a ball won't break as well in AZ.

For a guy who needs the ball to dance and slide around that means trouble.

Give him April. If after 6 starts he looks the same then it is time to get concerned.

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3/13/2012 2:27:22 PM #

Champ Summers

Hope everything is going in the right direction for you AAT. I know you are battling some tough stuff.

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3/13/2012 2:28:08 PM #

Champ Summers

John Fay ‏ @johnfayman
    · Open

RT @SteveMcBarks @johnfayman How much does the dry air down there affect breaking ball pitchers like Arroyo in the spring?//A lot

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3/13/2012 2:28:38 PM #

Champ Summers

45m Derrick Goold Derrick Goold ‏ @dgoold


Wainwright not showing the same command, same velocity as 1st time out. Different gun? Three-days rest? Second-time out?

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3/13/2012 2:32:25 PM #

Champ Summers

John Fay ‏ @johnfayman


Madson threw a 25-pitch bullpen. Reports he felt awesome. Bray, Masset both long tossed

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3/13/2012 2:56:16 PM #

Mary

Love that reply jail

Just watched the latest cooking show:  "Cooking with Bronson"

cincinnati.com/.../

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3/13/2012 3:22:02 PM #

Amy

Good stuff. I'm glad Bronson left the stuff involving knives to the chef. Don't cut your fingers!!

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3/13/2012 2:56:51 PM #

AshlandATeam

Also, here's a thought: it's time to trade Billy Hamilton.

Three reasons:

1. Zack Cozart
2. Didi Gregarious
3. Trading him now (before he's been exposed at the higher levels of the minor leagues and/or the big leagues) maximizes his trade value (for the opposite, look at Juan Franciso).

Cozart SHOULD be our shortstop for the next six years. If he's not, Didi Gregarious is at least as advanced as Hamilton is. So, for the same reason trading Grandal made sense with Hanigan/Mesaroco around, why not trade Hamilton now, when he still has the shine of a 100 SB season on him?

Could you get a good, young pitcher from Atlanta for him? Could you get, say, one of the five good fielding/solid hitting outfielders that Tampa always has sitting around for him? Could you package him with a couple other semi-disposable pieces (like, say, Bray and Frazier) and get back a quasi-top of the rotation guy from the other league (Gavin Floyd? Brandon McCarthy?)?

I'm not sure. But to me, Zack Cozart is a cornerstone, building block player that will (along with Jay Bruce) be the face of this franchise until 2018 or so. And that makes Billy Hamilton's best value to the Reds be a trade.

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3/13/2012 3:05:10 PM #

Amy

Interesting. It does seem like we're better off infield-depth-wise than I thought we'd be.

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3/13/2012 3:26:08 PM #

rpa

I don't know about Hamilton.  I think I would roll the dice and let him develop another year (let him get another 100 SB playing in AA) and then look at trading him.

Who knows.  If he continues to develop, you might want to keep him.  I have big questions about his ability to hit after looking at his swing (especially from the left side.  Man was that ugly.) but I just don't think you're going to get that much out of him.  It's better risk/reward to keep him for now.  I don't think you get back a Floyd or a McCarthy for a Hamilton/Bray/Frazier.  And even if you do, not sure it's a good idea.  If all the pitching pans out, then what did you trade him for?

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3/13/2012 3:26:39 PM #

DocProc

I buy this, Ash.  I have a feeling that, despite his incredible speed, Hamilton is going to make a lot of errors and have a low batting average.  Like you said, sell his speed and potential now, while there's a market for it.

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3/13/2012 3:34:04 PM #

Soccerdad13

You don't get rid of a guy that has the potential to be one of the most disruptive players in MLB. You let him develop and see what he turns in to. It's not like he's 26 years old. He is still learning.

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3/13/2012 3:39:20 PM #

Champ Summers

AAT...We are blessed with depth in the Middle IF. I don't think he will be "exposed" just yet. I think folks are aware of his weaknesses with the bat. I think he can grow.

Either way I don't see him as a SS when/if he makes the bigs. He will have moved to 2B or CF at that point. Cozart will be at SS or Didi will have moved Cozart to 2B.

I don't deal him just yet. His value will increase once he achieves success at AA or AAA. By then we might be singing a different tune.

I'm not ready to anoint Cozart or Didi the SS of the future either. Just 2 years ago Didi was an all glove no bat prospect and since he's grown taller, added weight and improved his power. Now he's the darling in camp.

I'm willing to be patient. If we have 3 legit SS think what a great position we will be in just as we are losing Votto.

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3/13/2012 4:21:03 PM #

Champ Summers

BRUUUUUUUCE!

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3/13/2012 4:27:14 PM #

Champ Summers

Jamie Ramsey ‏ @Jamieblog

Bruce crushed that onto the berm in centerfield...off the lefty Jonathan Sanchez

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3/13/2012 4:30:21 PM #

Amy

Just tuned in. These streaming games are doing nothing for my work productivity.

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3/13/2012 4:31:46 PM #

DocProc

Just thinking the same thing, Amy.

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3/13/2012 4:44:19 PM #

Champ Summers

Its killing me too and I have to leave tomorrow.

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3/13/2012 4:45:36 PM #

RedFaced

Melo is Yellow.  

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3/13/2012 4:56:45 PM #

Soccerdad13

That changes the whole complexion of the tournament.

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3/13/2012 4:54:04 PM #

timmytwoshoezzz

ouch, Reds starting pitching has been pretty underwhelming so far this year

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3/13/2012 5:05:58 PM #

Champ Summers

Leake also relies on breaking stuff. He was successful in college there but ML hitters seem to square him up out there.

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3/13/2012 5:08:52 PM #

timmytwoshoezzz

It does seem that many of the hits today have been grounders, which on another day may find gloves instead of gaps

What the hell Mark Berry!!!

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3/13/2012 5:11:23 PM #

Amy

Heh, I posted before I saw this. First one of spring training!

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3/13/2012 5:02:34 PM #

Soccerdad13

Amy will like this

The Little Guy came home from school and told me at lunch he bent over in his chair to pick up a napkin he dropped and when he did, "a fart fell out."
He said everybody was laughing really hard. I asked him if any girls were at the table and if they laughed. He said,"Just one,Anna, and she's pretty much a dude, so she laughed too."

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3/13/2012 5:12:02 PM #

Amy

That's just awesome.

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3/13/2012 5:10:06 PM #

Amy

What the hell, Mark Berry?

Amy | Reply

3/13/2012 5:11:21 PM #

DocProc

You and Timmy beat me to this one.

DocProc | Reply

3/13/2012 6:38:38 PM #

Champ Summers

the guy who's job is most at stake right now????

My answer

Sam LeCure

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3/13/2012 6:40:51 PM #

DocProc

I heard he gave up a LONG home run today.

DocProc | Reply

3/13/2012 6:47:31 PM #

rpa

Does he still have options?

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3/13/2012 8:43:18 PM #

Champ Summers

Looks like he does. Someone will have to take the job from him. Not sure who that is just yet. Brackman is still wild, Francis might not take it and a few of the other guys are still too young(that are on the 40).

He just can't keep giving up multiple runs per outing. Hes the last guy in the pen. That is a bubble job if there ever was one.

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3/13/2012 10:02:12 PM #

Soccerdad13

He;s probably working on stuff, adding a new pitch,trying to get more movement,trying a new grip etc. I wouldn't get too worked up about it right now.

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3/13/2012 6:51:30 PM #

DocProc

Okay, the Reds just lost.  Champ and Amy, I want you to make sure that's their last loss this week.  Got it?

Looking forward to your intrepid reports.

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3/13/2012 9:44:40 PM #

Amy

I'm ready to go now. Don't want to wait for Friday.

Amy | Reply

3/13/2012 10:03:08 PM #

Soccerdad13

Is the $5289.17 hoodie making the trip too?

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3/13/2012 10:25:48 PM #

Amy

Of course. Friday's a night game, and it gets chilly there at night.

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3/13/2012 10:59:35 PM #

Soccerdad13

You should have a body guard with you. That thing is more valuable than the Hope Diamond. Just trying to make sure you stay safe.

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3/13/2012 11:10:10 PM #

Amy

Champ's Druncle sounds scary. I don't think anyone will mess with me while I'm an honorary Summers cousin.

Amy | Reply

3/14/2012 1:22:55 AM #

Soccerdad13

Druncle! That is the best thing I've ever heard.

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3/14/2012 11:19:13 AM #

Amy

Pretty funny, right? His word, not mine.

Amy | Reply

3/14/2012 12:00:25 PM #

Soccerdad13

I'm sure it's not without cause.

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3/14/2012 12:02:53 PM #

Soccerdad13

I just got my Little League roster. Practice on Saturday!  Gotta start putting the kids in gametime situations.

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3/13/2012 8:56:03 PM #

Dawginnaples

If memory serves me, most breaking ball types don't really start to put the huge torque and twist on the elbow, wrist and fingures until their last couple starts of spring. They are normally trying to stretch out and get the arm used to the exertion of throwing before asking the joints to bend in unnatural ways. I don't have concerns about Leake and Bronson just yet. Let's see what they are doing in 2 weeks.

Dawginneworleans again!

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3/13/2012 9:24:59 PM #

Amy

Go have breakfast at Brennan's for me!

Amy | Reply

3/13/2012 11:13:02 PM #

Dawginnaples

Having a really busy week so far. Might be better on Friday. Is that in the French Quarter?
  Oh yes, and have a couple cold ones in Arizona for me. Now I'm the jealous one.

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3/13/2012 11:27:20 PM #

Amy

Yep, in the French Quarter.
http://www.brennansneworleans.com/

I'll raise a glass for all my RO friends in AZ.

Amy | Reply

3/13/2012 11:29:32 PM #

Amy

Have a Mr. Funk of New Orleans. Seriously good brunch/breakfast beverage.

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3/14/2012 11:16:25 AM #

DocProc

Just checked the forecast for the next four days in Goodyear and it looks great!  Have a blast, Champ.

DocProc | Reply

3/14/2012 11:35:47 AM #

Amy

85 and 82 on my two days. I'll take that.

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3/14/2012 11:42:09 AM #

DocProc

It was 75 and sunny here in Cinci yesterday, so I rolled down the windows while driving--just like I had done in AZ a few days earlier.  I was reminded that Phoenix's lack of humidity makes warm and sunny all the more pleasant.

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3/14/2012 12:16:35 PM #

Mary

Locals will tell you in AZ that it's not bad in the summer because it is a dry heat. Bah!  110F is 110F and don't let them fool you.  Also, ask about their August monsoon season (hint monsoon means rain, which means humidity).  I HATE Phoenix weather about 6-8 months of the year.  Of course, can't say that I like heat and humidity either, so guess I'll have to stay along the coast where it rarely gets above 75F and humidity is low-moderate

Mary | Reply

3/14/2012 1:00:09 PM #

DocProc

I plan to be a snowbird when I retire and will only be there from January thru March, so I should be safe.  Smile

DocProc | Reply

3/14/2012 11:42:32 AM #

Champ Summers

I'm here and read for baseball. Still awaiting the uncle. Cabbing it to the rental car and then maybe in and out.

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3/14/2012 12:06:05 PM #

Soccerdad13

From reply Andersonville
I just got my Little League roster. Practice on Saturday!  Gotta start putting the kids in gametime situations.

Soccerdad13 | Reply

3/14/2012 12:32:24 PM #

Amy

Soccer season for the littlest starts soon. Gotta check & see if last fall's cleats still fit. And then it goes straight into softball season (her first year not on a coed team)--so she needs a different glove.

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3/14/2012 12:48:22 PM #

Statmom



Freshman baseball is in full swing.  First scrimmage is Monday.  Got a brand new score book and plenty of sharp pencils.  Power washer has been tuned up (for removing those stubborn grass stains from uniforms). 1Can't.wait.

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3/14/2012 1:13:48 PM #

Amy

I forgot to mention high school track. It's going to be a busy spring!

Amy | Reply

3/14/2012 1:01:39 PM #

Soccerdad13

No, Amy they will not fit. It makes no difference if her feet grew or not. Soccer shoes never fit 2 seasons in a row. They shrink or something so you always have to buy new ones.

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3/14/2012 1:14:33 PM #

Amy

She likes her cleats to be oversized, for some reason. They may actually fit her now, which means she'll want a bigger pair.

Amy | Reply

3/14/2012 3:21:21 PM #

Soccerdad13

That's funny. SocSon always liked his tight,even when he was little. As he got older,he wanted them to be so light and tight he could feel the ball through the leather. As he started playing at a higher level,the price of his shoes made a mockery of the price of your hoodie.

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3/14/2012 3:26:34 PM #

Statmom


First, diapers bust your budget, then shoes. There is no relief.

Statmom | Reply

3/14/2012 3:25:50 PM #

Soccerdad13

Is she still on The Angry Marshmallows?

Soccerdad13 | Reply

3/14/2012 4:22:12 PM #

Amy

Nope, that was a couple seasons ago (she plays fall & spring). Best team name ever. EVER.

Amy | Reply

3/14/2012 4:40:18 PM #

DocProc

Agreed.  The best.

DocProc | Reply

3/14/2012 2:38:24 PM #

RedFaced

It will be interesting to see how Chapman and Bailey do today.  

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3/14/2012 3:36:04 PM #

bjsReds1

Interesting post by Fay regarding Chapman and I'm not talking about Dusty's answer to Chapman being a starter or reliever.  I chalk that up to what everyone said before about this issue.

I can't imagine what it's like for him, especially with the mention of his family issues at home.  Doesn't he have a young child, whom I'm not sure he's ever met according to an ESPN article from a few years back?  Even as much money as he is making, I can't fathom living in a place where you don't speak much of the language, can't see your your kid grow up, and know you could risk everything by going back home.  

I am sure pulling for the guy to reach his potential, but even if he doesn't, I feel for the guy and have a ton of respect for him, especially at such a young age still.

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3/14/2012 3:38:28 PM #

bjsReds1

Everyone on here knows my feelings towards Dusty, but I think it is important to add that when it comes to issues such as Chapman's, I'm not sure there's a better manager out there than Dusty.

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3/14/2012 4:01:42 PM #

Soccerdad13

www.facebook.com/l.php

Here's the article, linked to the Enquirer's facebook page. I believed at the time and still believe, the reason Chapman was up here last year was so they could keep an eye on him,with Coco, and the other veteran Hispanic players. The support system is so much greater in the majors than it is in the minors. It like he came from another planet. It has to be rough.

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3/14/2012 4:08:55 PM #

Mary

Nice story on the tiny MLB reporter,  Meggie Z:

westchesterbuzz.com/.../

Mary | Reply

3/14/2012 4:44:41 PM #

DocProc

Frazier now has 8 RBIs this spring--most on the club.  Looks like he's serious about trying to earn a spot on this club.

DocProc | Reply

3/14/2012 5:13:01 PM #

DocProc

Arredondo getting lit up.

DocProc | Reply

3/14/2012 5:20:54 PM #

timmytwoshoezzz

probably just "getting his work in"

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3/14/2012 5:27:03 PM #

Amy

Woof. That sounded ugly.

Amy | Reply

3/14/2012 5:29:41 PM #

timmytwoshoezzz

Mahay wants extra work too obviously.

timmytwoshoezzz | Reply

3/14/2012 5:34:25 PM #

Champ Summers

Not mahay's fault

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3/14/2012 5:40:39 PM #

timmytwoshoezzz

Mahay gave up three hits before Phipps lost the ball in the sun.  Not exactly keeping the bases clear.  

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3/14/2012 6:06:58 PM #

Champ Summers

Still not his fault. I'm hereand he wasnt as bad as it looks

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3/14/2012 5:35:31 PM #

Champ Summers

Bad throw by Cozart and jones lost one in the sun

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3/14/2012 5:41:00 PM #

Champ Summers

Ok I'm 4 PBR's in and having an outstanding time already. In and Out this morning chapman in the afternoon. He looked real good. Very calm and very comfortable

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3/14/2012 5:45:03 PM #

Amy

Jealous.

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3/14/2012 5:48:50 PM #

DocProc

What Amy said.

DocProc | Reply

3/14/2012 6:08:06 PM #

Champ Summers

This blanks guy has almost killed everyone in the dugout

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3/14/2012 6:09:36 PM #

Amy

7th-inning stretch--time for another round?

Amy | Reply

3/14/2012 6:10:58 PM #

DocProc

Amy, you're aiding and abetting.

DocProc | Reply

3/14/2012 6:17:33 PM #

Amy

I know. I can't help it.

Amy | Reply

3/14/2012 6:17:53 PM #

Amy

This is scary:

sports.yahoo.com/.../...-game-sends-214121731.html

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3/14/2012 7:36:47 PM #

Champ Summers

we did double up at last call. The PBR's were flowing.

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3/14/2012 8:01:31 PM #

SDDennis

Hey Champ, glad you're representin' RO in AZ. Bummed I'm missing this year. Kyle Blanks is a monster isn't he? I think they feed him on low-A players, which is possibly why the Padres' farm system gets so depleted. They keep having to make 4-for-1 trades...

Speaking of trades, here's an article on Latos from the San Diego paper (rag):

www.utsandiego.com/.../?page=1#article

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3/14/2012 9:17:13 PM #

RedFaced

Champ, what all was Chapman throwing out there today?

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3/14/2012 9:52:55 PM #

SilentBob

Apparently he was throwing PBR'S. In Champ's direction.

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3/14/2012 9:55:49 PM #

Champ Summers

I am laughing out loud right now. Chap was mid 90 s burnt her was no gun on him.


We just had a 16 inch at nypd pizza so f off

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3/14/2012 10:08:29 PM #

Amy

DUDE. We're going back, right?

Amy | Reply

3/14/2012 10:10:04 PM #

Amy

Jeff Passan ‏ @JeffPassan
Scary: Aroldis Chapman is throwing a splitter one scout thinks can be +. Different kind of scary: Chapman's fastball sat 92-93, topped 95.

Amy | Reply

3/14/2012 10:40:14 PM #

Grizzlyfox

I still think Chapman starts the year in the bigs as a starter and excels.

Walt ain't skirred.

Grizzlyfox | Reply

3/14/2012 10:36:00 PM #

Soccerdad13

I've heard Chapmans hands are too big to be effective with a change. The ball gets stuck in his palm and he can't control it. A splitter would be a great pitch for a guy with big hands. It's an elbow burner if your hands are too small. Take a splitter grip on an apple or orange,if you don't have a baseball available. Champ can do it around a PBR can.The harder you have to stretch to get that split with your fingers,the worse your elbow will be. Feel the flex in your forearm muscles when you get the grip. That translates to tendon issues in the elbow.

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3/14/2012 10:41:23 PM #

RedFaced

Did Champ just tell me to f off?  Maybe Chapman threw a few too many PBR's in his direction.

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3/14/2012 10:43:03 PM #

RedFaced

Well I was interested in seeing how Bailey pitched today... at least until I saw how he was doing.

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3/14/2012 10:44:38 PM #

Grizzlyfox

Same here. If Chapman keeps this up (7 IP, 7K, 1BB) and doesn't make the rotation I will be pizzed. We really traded for Sean Marshall and Mat Latos to not bring out the Missile?

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3/14/2012 10:43:38 PM #

Grizzlyfox

Bailey getting skunked. Yuck.

Maybe one of Arroyo, Bailey and Leake start the year on the DL? Maybe Champ could fire a PBR in one of their directions.....

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3/14/2012 10:51:04 PM #

RedFaced

Grizz, my vote (despite Bailey's less than stellar outing tonight) would be for Arroyo to receive the PBR to the noggin - at least up to this point.

Also, Is it just me or is Ludwick just as likely to strike out as to make any actually contact this Spring so far?

And Bruce is looking darn good.  

If I have to see one more damn reply of the frickin Christian Laettner shot I'm going to wake up the neighbors screaming (and the closest neighbor is a 1/4 mile away).  

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3/14/2012 11:14:42 PM #

SilentBob

RF I've never said it here but I fear that Ludwick could be a GASP casualty. Some guys toward the end of their careers might see a season in a small park as an opportunity to jack up the HR numbers. I hope I'm wrong.

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3/14/2012 11:20:37 PM #

Grizzlyfox

That's how Gomes treated every year here. NBD.

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3/14/2012 11:24:44 PM #

Champ Summers

Bailey is as bad as advertised. We met a guynwhomwas homers guest at the bar to it and was jacked to see him. Yuck indeed. He could not throw strikes. He was in bad counts all night  and then got screwed

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3/14/2012 11:31:19 PM #

RedFaced

SilentBob,  I had not thought of it from that point of view.  You most certainly could be correct.  

Champ, bad, bad outing for Bailey.  I know it's still early but man that's discouraging.    

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3/14/2012 11:32:04 PM #

Champ Summers

I don't think I told rf to f off but I did say f off to everyone for no reason,  that was some bad ass pizza at nypd.


This is a terrible game

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3/14/2012 11:36:00 PM #

RedFaced

I was just "hackin on you" Champ.  

Rumor has it, you killed a man, Champ? You don't seem like the killing sort.

RedFaced | Reply

3/14/2012 11:47:00 PM #

Champ Summers

No one is dead but I do want to kill dusty

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3/15/2012 12:10:22 AM #

RedFaced

Sorry, I starting spewing quotes from Young Guns.  As for Dusty... I'd settle for a kidnapping.  

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3/15/2012 11:03:59 PM #

Frank_Robinsons_Ghost

You don't know the meaning of Pals.

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3/15/2012 8:05:55 AM #

Amy

I put a new thread up--no content, just saving everyone's scrolling fingers.

Amy | Reply

3/15/2012 8:08:06 AM #

DocProc

Getting all things ready for your trip, I see!  Smile

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